Re: Holly cow
From: Brian E. Buxton (BrianBuxtonBuxtonMotorsports.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 16:27:17 -0800 (PST)

I've never opened a FML ... but you're talking two different markets - the wholesale market and the retail market.  The auction prices do represent the retail market.  The best of the best.  The cars you or I may sell that were owned personally (private parry retail) will fall below that.  The dealers offer wholesale, put in money for reconditioning and service, then sell somewhere between private party retail and auction retail.  The auction prices may be idiots with money, but it's the market.  Which is the trading of cars for money.  Do you think a McLaren F1 will sell under $15M in any transaction (other than wholesale or a car with bad history) now that one hit that mark last summer?  That set the market.  What about the black Ferrari GTO that sold for $22M more in a private party transaction (to David MacNeil) than the most recent GTO at auction (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/27/most-expensive-car-ever-sold-at-auction-fetches-48-million.html)?

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On 12/6/18 6:14 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. wrote:
Brian 
Brian
Brian
Most recently and I know he monitors this list I helped a lister sell his beautiful 308 with Daytona seats and improved a/c system at a price no where near the asking prices in the FML 
In fact it was at least 30k away from those dream boat prices you read in the yellow shit rag!
The market is dropping son 
The 550 crowd is starting to feel the pain 
Like I’ve always said if you want to know what your car is worth 
Take it to a dealer 
Because that’s the real price 
The auction prices are idiots with money 
They are suicide blondes, dyed by their own hand!
But that’s not the market
There is still some fools thinking he can get 280K for a 575 6spd 
Along with the dolts thinking superamericas are all that!
Keep in mind the 355 spyder crowd thought the same thing 
Remember that bubble?
Lest not forget the 360 spyder crowd as well
Idiots with money will never learn 
But hey 
It is what it is 
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On Dec 6, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Brian E. Buxton <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> wrote:

308 / 328 market is higher than it was when they were new!

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On 12/6/18 4:47 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. wrote:
I hope you’re right 
I just don’t see many people buying older Ferrari cars
In my opinion the 308/328/348 is dead 
The 355 market is surely dead and the a/c works on those cars!



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On Dec 6, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

I'll agree with Peter here...
In 5 years the dealerships will be so busy doing warranty work they won't have time to fix the stuff already sold.   The "good" independents will flourish.




From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Holly cow

The independents will survive keeping the older models going.
 
Peter
 
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Subject: [Ferrari] Holly cow
 
15 years 
This is going to kill the independent Ferrari shops 
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