Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Hans E. Hansen (FListhanshansen.org) | |
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:43:02 -0700 (PDT) |
Ran into a guy at the Monterrey Historics several years ago. He was helping a friend operate a vendor's booth selling some car parts. Talked to him at length about Weber jets. He said if I wanted to continue the conversation, contact him. Gave me his business card. It was from Boeing. His job title: Rocket Scientist. Was legit - some of the guys I was with were from the Seattle area and knew him from some of the car clubs there. I found the card recently while cleaning out my desk. Hans. (non-rocket scientist. But I watch Star Trek) On 10/24/19, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > They actually handed these out at work. Logo redacted for export > purposes... > >> On Oct 22, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Curiosity doesn't constitute a need to know... >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:49 AM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote: >>> I was trained to and can read between lines... >>> Unofficially? Glad you are on my side. >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 6:44:47 AM PDT, Erik Nielsen >>> <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> If you're not cheating, you're not trying. >>> >>> And officially, I only put PowerPoint presentations together... >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:07 AM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote: >>> “Knowing better” has no affect when in the throes of competition. >>> Interpretation is in the mind of the crafty. If it’s not explicitly >>> excluded by the rules (yet), exploit the rules with the technology in >>> front of you. My heroes in F1 have always been the engineers (Terrell, >>> Murray, Brawn, Newey, etc). If this is true, this is precisely the guile >>> that makes F1 fascinating (for me). And, it doesn’t happen enough. >>> Level playing fields are for the addled. Want a driver’s series? watch >>> Indy cars. >>> >>> For the same reasons, I’m thankful people like our own Dr. E are on my >>> side in the field of Weapons technology. >>> >>> As the Great Smokey Yunick said... it’s my job to cheat. It’s their job >>> to catch me.” >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2019, at 03:31, George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Charles/Clyde, >>> >>> I agree with Clyde's statement that Ferrari knows better than to cheat >>> (and for the reason - McLaren - stated). But, while I admittedly am not >>> well-versed on the technical regs, I can't help but wonder if this is >>> another instance where a team thinks they have found a competitive >>> advantage not addressed in the regs, a la blown diffusers and "fiddle >>> brakes", etc.???? >>> >>> Just a thought.... >>> >>> Thanks - I do think it will be interesting to see how this plays out. >>> Like Charles, I found the very notion to be intriguing - something my >>> simple brain would never have conceived of (which I guess is why I'm not >>> an F1 engineer!). 😉 >>> >>> gp >>> >>> >>> From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com> >>> >>> Got this from a private group but hadn't heard anything about it. Very >>> intriguing. Anyone know anything more? >>> >>> >>> As the week begins there are some updates in the F1 world. Read an >>> article that 3 teams that have filed a protest against Ferrari. The >>> protest relates to where Ferrari has found all the HP they?re making. >>> I had this discussion with xxxx, earlier in the season about Shell >>> engineers being trackside on race weekends taking samples of oil from the >>> Ferrari engine. Remember last year the car was continually trailing smoke >>> from the tailpipe. >>> The suspicion was, Shell was adding some volatile additives that were >>> being plumbed via the EGR system, into the intake. >>> Now it seems to have gone a bit further, Ferrari is not using >>> water/coolant in the intercooler system but some type of oil. In itself >>> that isn?t a violation. But some teams are having concern that the oil is >>> boiling off some type of additive that is then being plumbed into the >>> intake post intercooler, that is increasing HP. No determinations or >>> comments from the FIA about any of this. I can see Liberty Media taking >>> some part in silencing it for viewership/competition just as they allowed >>> Honda to bring 4 in-season engine updates. Last thing they want to see is >>> AMG taking another DC/CC in 2020 uncontested. >>> If this is going on, Renault, Honda and all the Ferrari&AMG customer >>> teams having a legitimate bitch. >>> F1 is a game of constant updates and cheating wherever they can get away >>> with it. Just part of the game. >>> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://lists.ferrarilist.com/pipermail/ferrari/attachments/20191021/2a73980b/attachment.html> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> >>> To: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com> >>> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> >>> >>> I think Ferrari knows better than to cheat >>> Look what happen to McClearen years back >>> >>> >>> >>> RF4-4EVR >>> >>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories ! >>> >>> If you have no enemies, you have no character ! >>> >>> Clyde Romero >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >>> https://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/ramosel%40pacbell.net >>> >>> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com >>> and F1 Headlines >>> http://www.F1Headlines.com/ >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >>> https://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/judge4re%40gmail.com >>> >>> Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com >>> and F1 Headlines >>> http://www.F1Headlines.com/ >
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power?, (continued)
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Erik Nielsen, October 22 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Rick Moseley, October 22 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Erik Nielsen, October 22 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Erik Nielsen, October 24 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Hans E. Hansen, October 24 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Doug & Terri, October 29 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Rick Moseley, October 29 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Doug & Terri, October 29 2019
- Re: Ferrari's newfound F1 Power? Brian Keegan, October 29 2019
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