Re: Along time ago - at Symbolic Motor Cars - Ferrari 003
From: Rick Moseley (ramoselpacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 14:58:43 -0700 (PDT)
Ha!   I’ve been watching “Speed Merchants” while cleaning the garage.  

On Mar 30, 2020, at 14:14, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:



After I finish watching the movies “Andromeda Strain” and “On the Beach” – I’m going to put in my VHS tape of “The Racers.”  Oh boy.  Go Kirk Douglas.

Doug

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Gary Reed
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 2:00 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Along time ago - at Symbolic Motor Cars - Ferrari 003

 

Here's the license plate that Jim had on the car.

 

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Gary

 

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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 1:56 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Along time ago - at Symbolic Motor Cars - Ferrari 003

 

Please be careful when citing serial numbers of these first cars.

 

Generally accepted is that #1 and #2 are 1C (or 01C) and 2C (or 02C).  The generally accepted story is that each of these were recycled by Ferrari in 010 and 020 in what should be 1948.

 

There is some dispute if 3C ever existed.  

 

002I (Jim G. has provided photo evidence that is is "I" not "C").  If no 3C then this is the 3 Ferrari.

 

There is no serial number marking on 002I's engine, all it has is "159".

 

The book  La Nascita apparently details 1947 with even the factory's individual race reports from which one could trace these earliest cars details.  Unfortunately I do not have a copy of the book.

 

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:40 PM Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

Not sure if we are talking about the same model of car, but a guy in
Vancouver WA has #004C.  His father bought it for a pittance in the
'60s. Did a beautiful restoration on it.

Jim Glickenhaus has 002C, but some/many argue that it's not near the
car that 004C is.  Seems in a restoration it "borrowed" quite a few
parts from other cars of the era.

#004C has an interesting engine history.  Apparently the first V12 was
used mostly for dyno testing.  An "ear" where a motor mount attached
broke off.  #002C got the 2nd motor built.  But they welded up that
broken "ear" and that motor is in #004C.  The engine numbers support
this, as the number on 004C is one behind that in 002C.  The owner of
004C has a vintage photo of that "dyno" motor with the broken engine
mount.

Hans.

On 3/29/20, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> Hello Hans
>
> Picture this - many years ago Ferrari Willi, AKA Ferrari Bubba when he
> moved
> to Arkansa - traveld down to see Brian Keegan.  There we saw a restoration
> in process.  See the attached.  Brian - if you read this - perhaps you
> could
> fill in the gang more about this early One-of-the-firsts Ferrari's
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:42 AM
>
>
>
> Bubba - remember when we went down to Symbolic's work shop and met with
> Brian Keegan?  The shop was in the process of restoring the FIRST (?)
> Ferrari 001.  However, there was a controversy since those silly Italians
> to
> beat the tax man over stamped the numbers so the most prominent numbers
> read
> 003.  I think there was a C in there someplace.
>
> DOUG
>
> (Who is always open for enlightenment)
>
>
>
>   _____
>
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> Subject: Re: Ride in a Ferrari, (continued)
>
>
>
> Note to all: My latest issue of CAVALLINO Magazine (The Journal of Ferrari
> History) has the 1947 Ferrari 166 Spyder Corsa V-12, one of 8? built, is
> valued at between $950,000 - $1,250,00 USD. Odd, when the 1962 250 GTO
> Series I (33 built) are valued between $26,000,000-$30,000,000 USD! (That's
> $Million, folks!)
>
> More to follow, but I believe it was imported by Luigi C. of NART fame and
> owned by Briggs Cunningham early on. Sam Collier was killed in either this
> car or 005, I'll have to check. Maybe someone out there without my 75
> year-old brain with dementia can help this old fool out?
>
> Yer pal, still pluggin' away in East Jesus, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/16/2011 5:20:57 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> zavitar1 [at] yahoo.com <mailto:zavitar1 [at] yahoo.com>  writes:
>
>
> http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/ride-along-world-oldest-surviving-fer
> rari-193652491.html
>
>
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