Re: Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/
From: Douglas Anderson (dntdock.net)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Ach - that was a problem.  It was a wipe out.  So pumped the tires up, changed 
the oil, filled the tank and put Sta-Bil in it and "winterized" her.  Looking 
toward Spring.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Jashburne <jashburne [at] aol.com> 
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 11:59 AM
To: Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/

How were you able to source them during the Great COVID TP Shortage of 2020?

John

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> On Mar 14, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
> 
> Picture this - mid-eighties - Willow Springs race track - high desert 
> adjacent to Edwards AFB in Rosemond.  It's 7:00 a.m. and some of the FCA/FOC 
> are up and about for the DE.  First cars out about 9:00.  Newish TR starts up 
> cold cold cold.  Revs up - hell, it's race weekend, and BLAMO.  Rust proofing 
> done - no additional charge.  
> Doug
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf 
> Of Hans E. Hansen
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2021 10:14 AM
> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/
> 
> The filters used on the 308 are rather generic in fitment, also used 
> on old Ford pickups and some industrial engines.  Back i the day when 
> the UFI fiasco was going on, I researched this a bit.  If you look 
> long enough, you can find maximum pressure ratings for filters, and 
> the Baldwin is among the highest.  Several competing brands have 
> pressure ratings that are not too far from the cold pressure that a
> 308 can generate, leaving little safety margin.  AC/Delco actually makes a 
> filter with the same specs,  (pressure rating, anti drain back, etc.) but 
> it's very hard to find.  I special ordered a few, but not sure why, as the 
> Baldwins are more readily available. Note that many of the regular, generic 
> filters that will fit don't have the anti drain back.  Which gives you zero 
> oil pressure for several seconds as it fills on every cold start.....
> 
> Hans.
> 
>> On 3/13/21, Robert Garven <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> They are the only filter to use in a Ferrari, that you can get one 
>> that fits. Long time listers remember the UFI oil rubber gasket 
>> blowout drama.  I still have one of those 25 year old 150$ I pulled 
>> from my inventory when they were blowing off and have it on display 
>> at my house! I also bought one of these Chinetti ones for $$$$$$ but 
>> just for a display!  HA
>> 
>> Enzo and old man Baldwin made friends and Baldwin said as long as he 
>> owned the company they would make the oil filters for the Ferrari.  I 
>> would not use anything else and when I see another on a Ferrari I 
>> wince….
>> 
>> They are the best made, strongest, least drain back, plus longtime 
>> Ferrari history, Peter uses their air filter, I did not know they 
>> made one. Pete what is the part number? I never drive my car off 
>> road, in the rain, dust, wind etc. and I just had my airbox off and 
>> the K&N looks new. I have seen some conflicting reports on their 
>> hp/effectiveness but still might swap one out for the $$$ ufi air 
>> filter I took out!  HA I want to believe! HAA
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 1:33 PM, BRITT ROTHMAN via Ferrari 
>> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Any thoughts on Baldwin oil filters?  I still have a few from my 328 
>> days I never used....
>> 
>> BR in Stockholm
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On 13 Mar 2021, at 20:54, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is correct from research I did several years ago.  I take a 
>>> hard pass on K&N air filters.  At the time I was digging, the AC 
>>> Delco air filters seemed to perform best.  Decent air flow when new, 
>>> good filtration and less of a drop in flow as they got dirty.
>>> 
>>> Oil filters are a different story and are constantly evolving.  
>>> Mobil 1, Bosch Extended Performance and Royal Purple are all pretty 
>>> good with RP probably being the best.
>>> 
>>> For oils I have long been a big fan of Redline.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 8:21 AM CL <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net 
>>> <mailto:cmlf1 [at] optonline.net>> wrote:
>>> I recall in testing I was involved in on BMW M30 6 cylinder engines 
>>> the K&N drop is filters were awful in every respect. They had a 
>>> fraction of the surface area of the MANN or other OEM equivalent and 
>>> once they got  a bit dirty restricted airflow to the point where the 
>>> engine would stumble on part throttle acceleration. They were great 
>>> when clean as far as airflow but the reduced area made the 
>>> inefficient once they got slightly dirty and on a street engine, I 
>>> would rather have the filtration over a few CFM of airflow and have to 
>>> clean the filter every month.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carl
>>> 
>>>> On March 7, 2021 at 10:32 PM Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com 
>>>> <mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know.. I standardized on the Fram paper pleated filters and 
>>>> gave up on the k&n filters after that test...
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net <mailto:dnt [at] dock.net>>
>>>> Date: 3/7/21 7:44 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>>> To: '308 Misc' <misc [at] 308systems.com <mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>>
>>>> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
>>>> <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
>>>> Subject: Ferrari 308 now Gary’s 308/
>>>> 
>>>> Hmmm
>>>> 
>>>> Had to read this twice – how could an oil filter make a HP difference?
>>>> 
>>>> Ahhh – K&N “air” and oiled air filter.  OK
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think it caught more dirt?  Make the engine last longer?
>>>> 
>>>> Just wondering . . .
>>>> 
>>>> Doug
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com
>>>> <mailto:dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com>> On Behalf Of 308 Misc
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 3:04 PM
>>>> To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net <mailto:dnt [at] dock.net>>
>>>> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
>>>> <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari 308 now Garys 308/ "Cirith 
>>>> Ungol"/512S
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> When I had my 85 with factory exhaust on a dyno in the late 90s the 
>>>> RWHP was around 190.  FYI - I was testing out KN oil air filters vs 
>>>> Fram paper filters and found KN decreased HP by approximately 5hp…..
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Lueker
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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