Re: California
From: Robert Garven (
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 20:31:13 -0700 (PDT)

Of course, everyone is welcome,  its probably better in pictures than real life. 
I know some of you have closets bigger than my house….


On Jun 5, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at]> wrote:

Ok, after seeing pics of the shrine, I would love to meet up when I am out there in July to visit my son.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 3:49 PM Robert Garven <rgarven [at]> wrote:
I can talk offline if you want

Robert W. Garven Jr.
324 Estrella St.
Ventura, CA 93003-1604

805-798-5910 mobile

I am busy today and sunday but next week if you want. It is expensive here
in Ventura but I love it, but unfortunately its growing. I could not live in LA or the area,
South of LA its getting hotter and climate change has really changes everything in the last 
30 years but here it never gets really cold or hot, never rains, lots of good roads. 3 years ago 
Thomas fire burned 1000 house within a mile of me…pics from my front yard

Where are you now?
What is your price range?

I own my own house and live on $40K a year with 2 Ferraris, but houses in
our middle class neighborhood are going for 850K built in the late 50’s, there are cheaper
areas around. 

On Feb 12, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at]> wrote:

On Santa Paula and Fillmore, do they have flooding issues due to being at the foot of a mountain and on a river?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 1:24 PM Mark <misc [at]> wrote:
I'm in Santa Barbara, and agree with the smog dissertation.... it is nice to be able to see the mountains when I lived in Hermosa Beach.

As far as affordable, you might look at Lompoc, Buellton, Los Alamos, slightly closer than Orcutt and Vandenberg, and then Santa Maria - slightly farther away.  Give or take the nearly continuous coastal fog in May and June comment the average temperature in these places is going to be about 68° year round

All these cities are going to be approximately two and a half hours from Santa Monica.

Slightly closer would be Santa Paula, Fillmore, Moorpark which also avoids the coastal fog and get much hotter (probably 110deg last summer)

Mark Lueker

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at]>
Date: 2/12/21 10:51 AM (GMT-07:00)
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at]>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] California

No, he works in Hawthorne and lives in Santa Monica.  What do you think of Vandenberg Village and Orcutt?  Desolate but affordable, it seems.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 11:09 AM Douglas Anderson <dnt [at]> wrote:

Kalifornia?  Who lives in such a place?  The cereal state?  Land of nuts and flakes?

The Eagles wouldn’t write a No. 1 hit song about any other.

Ahem – we do.  Thousand Oaks.  45 miles NW of the Los Angeles impact zone.

Kalifornia is a state that you can drive all day long . . . and still be in Kalifornia.

Why the “K”?  Well Kalifornia came up with special laws like emissions and taxes imposed on the residents.

In many ways Kalifornia was responsible for emission laws.  It wasn’t that long ago there were “49 state” cars then Kalifornia only.

It was/is the tail that wags the dog . . . emission wise . . .car sale wise . . . world wide.

In retrospect – not a bad thing.  As youngster, I recall days that looked like London Fog – but it was emissions and take a deep breath and your chest would hurt.  Smoke + Fog = Smog.  The only time you could see Mt. Wilson looking north from Inglewood under the LAX flight path is the day it rained.  Then Mt. Wilson disappeared again.  Now?  You can see it anytime from the same vantage point.

Or you could look at this way – forcing science to come up cleaner emission made way for tricks that allow 900 hp out 4 liters , , , for a street machine.

Look on any older cars emission plate . . . something like “complies with all states AND California.”

So there’s the Teutonic spelling.  Rob lives another 30 miles or so up Hwy101.

So go to your grocery store, go to the cereal isle, look at all the flavors and types of nuts and flakes, and those are the areas you can choose to live.

We like it here – a lot of retired air line pilots do too.

So you son works in Santa Monica – but where does he live?




From: Ferrari < [at]> On Behalf Of Anthony Bauco
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 6:51 AM
To: DOUG <dnt [at]>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at]>
Subject: [Ferrari] California


Having observed the sanity levels on this list I am somewhat hesitant to ask this question but here it goes.  Who here lives in CA?  I suspect there are several..


My son moved out there a little over a year ago.  I am going to give him three years to see if he is going to stay there.  If so, I will likely move out there to be closer to him.  So I am starting to research areas.  I don't mind downsizing and I already live a pretty simple life but, still, I need to be able to survive the cost of living at the tail end of my working years and through retirement.  My son works at SpaceX and lives in Santa Monica.  No way am I going to pay those prices.  So I am looking north and south of LA.  I hate extreme heat and my wife hates cold so the desert is out.

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