Re: From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist
From: Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
Boss
Listen 
Stevie Wonder who is blind can ascertain after watching the video that since 
1. It was definitely a twin engine plane( that means for you 2 engines)
2. He was well into flight, had not crashed just after takeoff, so he had enough thrust( for you that power) to get off the ground and maintain flight
3. After getting air borne you can see the slow roll to the left until impact, which means the left engine failed, he didn’t feather it( for you that mean putting the prop in it’s least drag position, you have to look up drag on your own) so that caused the airplane to roll into the dead engine, or he did everything right but put in the incorrect rudder inputs which is just a deadly.

No radio call because he was most likely stunned that this occurred and panic set in instead of training.

So Rick and Luke how did I do?




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On Oct 13, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:


I still haven't seen anything that confirms an engine failure.  And it is strange that the pilot never said anything at the end.  That audio was edited, right?  Maybe they edited the end out.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 4:55 PM Les Thompson <les21 [at] ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Here's the audio between the pilot and ATC, very disoriented.

 

Couldn't find anything on cabin heat source, but since 1975 they've had an AD on exhaust system maintenance, there was some mention of fuel management, but the consensus was no problem if you know what you're doing. "And if you have only one locker tank (common on 340s), remember to use crossfeed; dump all 120 pounds from a locker into one tip tank, and the imbalance will be enough to upset even your autopilot."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwt1UpyXXc&t=14s

 

 

 

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From: clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Oct 13, 2021 3:58 PM
To: Les Thompson <les21 [at] ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist


If you look at the video of the crash he was airborne for quite a while and had sufficient altitude to recover if he knew what to do

Most likely never practiced an engine failure at takeoff

He basically flew the airplane to the scene of the crash with power

You cant tell doctors a damn thing they know everything

 

 

From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:11 PM
To: clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist

 

It's the plight of many GA pilots... 

Get a plane, have fun, go places

Get a bigger plane, multi engine, take more people with you, go faster

One engine failure, asymmetric thrust

Don't know how to correct yaw and lift changes in asymmetric condition

First to the scene of the crash.

 

It was a real problem with the Turkey (more so than Clyde's Rhino) because the engines were so far apart.  But, so were the HUGE Vertical tails...  for that reason.  Center hull carried the  Phoenix, so worth the trade-off. 

 

 

Can't image what it was like for the SR-71 guys.  

Engines much further apart, and one goes from sucking hundreds of thousands of cubic feet of air to brick wall in an instant.

And someday, some day...  Erik is really going to explain an "unstart" to me.

OK, I know WHAT it is, I still don't fully understand how an "unstart" happens.

 

 

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:47:19 AM PDT, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

There is video of the plane in the air and banking hard left into the ground

He was flying

New Video Shows Moment Plane Crashed in Santee Neighborhood Killing Doctor, UPS Driver – NBC 7 San Diego (nbcsandiego.com)

From: Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:27 PM
To: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] From Fox News - San Diego plane crash: At least 2 dead, including cardiologist

 

I am pretty sure he wasn't airborne or flying anymore when he crashed.

 

Do we know he had an engine failure?

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 12:05 PM Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Pretty much 

It was a 2 engine airplane that could have flown on 1 engine 

He was airborne and flying when he crashed

Looks like an engine failure with a wrong rudder recovery to me 

 

 

     RF4-4EVR

 

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

 

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

 

Clyde Romero    

 

 

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On Oct 13, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:

 

I see.  Do we know this was pilot error?

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 11:40 AM Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Aviation ensures that mistakes aren’t repeated. Usually because the offender doesn’t live to do it again. 

 

On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:

 

Self cleansing?  What does that mean?

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 7:53 AM Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Flying is self cleansing 

The pilot was a doctor! 

Seen that before 

 

 

A small plane crashed in a residential neighborhood of San Diego County Monday afternoon, damaging some homes, authorities said. At least two people died and two more have been taken to the hospital.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-plane-crashes-san-diego-residential-area-damaging-homes

 

Explore the Fox News apps that are right for you at http://www.foxnews.com/apps-products/index.html.

 

 

 

     RF4-4EVR

 

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

 

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

 

Clyde Romero    

 

 

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