Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Old member returns only to find watch thread stillactive...

[Brian E. Buxton (BrianBuxton]

I have read where a few people have grown tired of the current thread, 
but I did write that I would respond, so here it is.  One thing that I 
find odd is that so far I gather nobody really has any issues with a 
citizen carrying a firearm for personal protection, but if they carry 
two, or carry a clip that holds 10+ rounds then there is a problem.  I 
am missing the logic in that.  One weapon is self-defense but two is 
fanaticism?

Regardless, let me begin by stating that I do not carry two handguns on 
a regular basis.  In fact, it is very rare that I even carry one.  I 
keep one in the night stand next to my bed, one in the vehicle I am 
driving and one in my office.  But carrying on my person is a bit more 
rare.  However, when I do it is because; 1. I often carry large amounts 
of cash to banks, sometimes late at night; 2. I work late hours and 
often leave my office, our 2,000 acre farm (where meth labs have been 
known to pop up without our knowledge, drug transactions have taken 
place, etc.) or other areas alone and in the dark; 3. because of the age 
at which I opened my business and the type of business that it is, I am 
a bit of a high profile person in town, which often leads to one 
becoming a target; 4. one of our family businesses has been broken into 
several times over the past 20+ years and every time we arrived BEFORE 
the police; 5. due to his profession my father has been the victim of 
two armed robberies where a handgun was used, and a few years ago 
someone had mailed bombs to our home (which I unwittingly carried into 
the house from the mailbox thinking it was a box of checks), to his 
office and had also placed a device underneath his vehicle.

So my use of handguns is truly for personal protection, and I am not a 
right wing fanatical whacko.  I have just personally experienced too 
many situations where the police were only available after a crime was 
committed or in a couple of instances where lives could have already 
been lost.  I agree that a cellular phone would be the first and safest 
choice, but sometimes that is just not the case.  How long would it take 
the police to arrive and assist me in walking in on a robbery at our 
music store, or a drug transaction in the middle of a field in rural KY, 
or with someone walking up and sticking a gun in my face at a bank or in 
my own home?  And how would I have time to call in the first place in 
some of those scenarios?  So in the instances where I do carry a second 
firearm it is mainly because; 1. I am in a situation or area where I 
feel more comfortable being better armed; 2. I usually do not carry 
multiple clips, and if I am in a situation where I have emptied one clip 
while defending myself, retreating from a situation, etc. I like to know 
I have a few extra shots to defend myself / escape; 3. if I am disarmed, 
searched or injured in such a way that I lose my main firearm I will 
have a second one hidden that can be accessed at a later time.

Hopefully the explanation makes sense as it has been a long day and I am 
typing what comes to mind rather than actually proofing everything to 
make sense.  There are so many situations I have been involved in that 
it is tough to explain each one individually.

Brian


BRIGANDBAR [at] aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/16/2006 5:17:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com writes:
>
> I have to go with Clyde here. I just don't know of a situation where a  
> civilian should put him/herself into circumstances where a backup firearm, or  even 
> a 14 shot magazine capacity could or would be required. Brian may have some  
> special circumstance that I don't know of, and of course he should be entitled 
> to take any steps necessary to assure his personal safety, and I'm always  
> willing to learn, and to consider something different, particularly since I do  
> sit in occasionally as a Police Chief and field questions from residents 
> about  what they can do to prevent injury or loss of life or property.
>
> I'm not chiding you Brian, I'm sure that you have made your decision to  
> carry a backup firearm and I'd like to learn what I might be missing in  
> counseling civilians such as yourself about carrying a backup. I'll change my  
> recommendations if I agree, and participate in a discourse if I do not  agree.
>
> In my now retired (most of the time) from law enforcement state, unless my  
> life or property (under statutory conditions) is threatened and the use of  
> lethal force is a permitted and legally sustainable my primary weapon is my  
> cellular telephone. The firearm is secondary, not that I would forfeit my life,  
> or that of my family etc., should its employment become necessary, it is just a 
> lot more simple to do it that way. Now when I'm "Acting Chief" and have 
> other  lawful obligations to a constituency, my actions would differ in accordance 
> with  the law, and a secondary firearm could be justified. In my case, its a 
> small  city, and extra magazine is all that I consider necessary, though there 
> are long  guns as "backups" in the police cruiser.
>
> Dr. Steve
>
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