Ferrari Mailing List: Re: OT: Lotus' owner set to sell to the GM?

[LS (lashdeep]

3.5L V8 + two turbos is a lot of weight...


--- "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

> Yeah, GM claims that the DOHC ZR-1 engine weighed more than
> the current alum pushrod series, yet developed similar power for
> the same displacement.  (Both the LT-5 and the previous Z-06 unit
> were 5.7L and 400hp.)
> 
> Hans.
> 
> on 1/18/07, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Are there any specs of the Lotus 918 motor as far as weight is
> concerned?? I wonder what the true difference is between the LS7 and it.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pushrod_engine (take it for what
> Wikipedia is worth)
> >
> > LS
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:39:07 PM
> > Subject: [Ferrari] OT: Lotus' owner set to sell to the GM?
> >
> >
> > Would be cool if it happened officially.....
> >
> > As far as choice of motor, I can never see a Lotus with a domestic
> V8...
> >
> > Not that it's bad, but exotics almost always use smaller displacement
> motors
> > with DOHC.
> >
> > FG
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Joseph H. Oczkowski <jhollc [at] comcast.net>
> > Date: Jan 18, 2007 1:27 PM
> > Subject: [turboesprit] Lotus' owner set to sell to the GM?
> > To: turboesprit [at] yahoogroups.com
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> >
> >
> > I'm sure most of you have seen this.
> >
> > http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=346343
> >
> > Lotus' owner set to sell to the GM?
> >
> > I think it might be a good deal for Lotus especially for the US
> > market Because GM has two good engines that Lotus could use.
> >
> > Image an Elise or an Europa with GM's new Ecotec turbo 2.0-liter four-
> > cylinder that makes 260 horsepower and 260 pound-feet of torque.
> > This engine is already being used in GM's Saturn SKY Red Line and the
> > Pontiac Solstice GXP here in the US. The only issue is the
> > transmission? if they could only use the transmission out of a Honda
> > S2000 ?too bad that will not work - only a dream.
> >
> > I don't think GM would allow Lotus to use any of the corvette engines
> > (LS7) in the Esprit because of the competition. Also these engines
> > are large and heavy? compared to Lotus last 3.5V8. But how about an
> > Esprit that uses the Cadillac 4.4L Supercharged Northstar V8 VVT, the
> > same one out of the STS-V model? It puts out 469 hp @ 6,400 rpm /
> > 439 lb-ft @ 3,900 rpm. I'm sure Lotus could bump it up to close to
> > 500HP and then mate it up to the GM's 6-speed transaxle from the
> > corvette. So the only issue would be the bell housing for the
> > transmission. The Northstar engine has been very successful and is
> > very durable; my father has one with over 100,000 miles with no
> > issues. Also the earlier Cadillac's that had the Northstar engine
> > were front wheel drive, so this might be another option for the
> > transmission (but I think it was only an automatic (no 5 or 6 speed)
> > but I heard rumors of a test mule that had paddle shifter of this
> > transmission.
> >
> > Also GM could use some additional experts in the field of suspension
> > and steering. I have recently drove a new Corvette and my 2001
> > Esprit still has better suspension and steering. GM still can't get
> > this right.
> >
> > Good luck to Lotus and GM if the deal goes through.
> >
> > JoeyO
> > 2001 V8
> >
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