Ferrari Mailing List: John in Minnesota

[Dick Petrick (rtpetrick]

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> --- Begin Message ---
> John, a few of us Ferrari owners in Minnesota are trying to establish some
> kind of a club (FCA perhaps) for those of us that like to drive our cars.
> Let me know if you are interested.... 
>
> Regards
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Re: FG pumps up the Ferrari signal (volume three) (Dennis Liu)
>    2. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com)
>    3. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (LS)
>    4. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (Fellippe Galletta)
>    5. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (LS)
>    6. Re: Speed Doesn't Kill. - Portago (Alfaowner)
>    7. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (clyde)
>    8. Just saw a 599 GTB (Ric Rainbolt)
>    9. Re: Speed Doesn't Kill. - Portago (red5hilser [at] aol.com)
>   10. Re: SPOILER: Re:  plus ca' meme, plus ca' change (Pat Scopelliti)
>   11. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (LS)
>   12. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (Ken Rentiers)
>   13. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (jimshadow [at] verizon.net)
>   14. Re: Quality of drivers (NO F CONTENT) (LarryT)
>   15. Re: Just saw a 599 GTB (Erik Nielsen)
>   16. Re: FG pumps up the signal (volume two) (AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com)
>   17. Nothing sings like a V-12... (Todd Walke)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:36:04 -0500
> From: Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the Ferrari signal (volume three)
> To: "'Fellippe Galletta'" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <45ec7130.24e4eeef.1761.3b16 [at] mx.google.com>
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>
> Dunno what the list consensus is, but I think the car is beautiful.
> Wonderful to see such coach building craftsmanship in this day and age.  It
> does retain the Enzo's paddle shifters.  There is a controversy concerning
> whether the car should be considered a "Ferrari" or not, involving
> Glickenhaus and John Barnes of Cavallino.  FChat is alight with the
> back-and-forth.
>
> Vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:52 PM
> To: Dennis Liu
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the Ferrari signal (volume three)
>
> With respect to Jim Glickenhaus' P4/5....what was the list's consensus on
> the car?
>
> I think it's a gorgeous design (superior to the Enzo in every way IMHO), and
> enjoy the fact that it's lighter. Saw a video of it on youtube being driven
> on the highway and that rear end is something else...
>
> The real question is what transmission did the car come with? I'm hoping
> there's a 3rd pedal and some heavy shifter in the console...
>
> I could ask Jim, but then I'd have to log onto FC or LP.......figured you
> guys knew ALL.
>
> :)
>
> FG
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:13:15 -0800
> From: "AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com" <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: "Ferrari List" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <05aa01c75f62$ba7b6070$0200a8c0 [at] OfficePC>
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>
> Hey ... that gives me an idea. I own 0-100-0.com and have never done
> anything with it. 
>
> If y'all wanted to have some video fun, putting your foot where your mouth
> is (so to speak), I'll create a simple social network site with video, etc.
> -- where you can post your quick kills. 
>
> Or should I just shut up and go back to lurk mode? 
>
> - Bob Prosser
>
> -----------------
>
> That would not be fun
> It would be like having prison sex!
> You would be all mine!
>
> Clyde
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:45:12 
> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
>
> In the spirit of Ferrari related content, I ask:
>
> Where's Erik Nielsen to defend the 365 gt/4 2+2/400 series camp?
>
> And will Clyde race anybody who challenges him? I'd like to battle him 0-100
> for fun...
>
> :)
>
> FG
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:40:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: "AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com" <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <351748.87223.qm [at] web56710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>
> Damn, that sounds fun!!!
>
> When do we start?
>
> LS
>
> --- "AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com" <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey ... that gives me an idea. I own 0-100-0.com and have never done
> > anything with it. 
> > 
> > If y'all wanted to have some video fun, putting your foot where your
> > mouth is (so to speak), I'll create a simple social network site with
> > video, etc. -- where you can post your quick kills. 
> > 
> > Or should I just shut up and go back to lurk mode? 
> > 
> > - Bob Prosser
> > 
> > -----------------
> > 
> > That would not be fun
> > It would be like having prison sex!
> > You would be all mine!
> > 
> > Clyde
> > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:45:12 
> > To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> > Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Subject: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> > 
> > In the spirit of Ferrari related content, I ask:
> > 
> > Where's Erik Nielsen to defend the 365 gt/4 2+2/400 series camp?
> > 
> > And will Clyde race anybody who challenges him? I'd like to battle him
> > 0-100
> > for fun...
> > 
> > :)
> > 
> > FG
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:45:23 -0500
> From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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> On 3/5/07, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Damn, that sounds fun!!!
> >
> > When do we start?
> >
> > LS
>
>
> As soon as I get down to DC...:)
>
> Clyde should put his car in the belly of his plane and come visit us in the
> nation's capital....
>
> FG
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:55:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <489658.88019.qm [at] web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>
> I want to see how capable Clyde's 512TR is with his KMart Kelly Charger GT
> radials!
>
> LS
>
>
> --- Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 3/5/07, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Damn, that sounds fun!!!
> > >
> > > When do we start?
> > >
> > > LS
> > 
> > 
> > As soon as I get down to DC...:)
> > 
> > Clyde should put his car in the belly of his plane and come visit us in
> > the
> > nation's capital....
> > 
> > FG
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:31:10 -0500
> From: "Alfaowner" <alfaowner [at] sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill. - Portago
> To: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
> Cc: Staxwax [at] aol.com, ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com, MaxEd49 [at] aol.com,
>         Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com
> Message-ID: <004b01c75f6d$97cd8110$282976d0 [at] normoffice>
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>
> Speaking of Portago - try to catch the next issue of Vintage Racecar (find
> it at Border's) in about 2 weeks.  We'll have 7 pages of photos & story by
> Robert Newman on the ill-fated race.  Includes some pix of Portago & Nelson
> in the Ferrari 335S, as well as an artist's step-by-step drawing of the
> crash events.
>
> Also of interest to Ferrari racing fans - a report by Art Evans on the 1958
> Cuba GP including pix.  Remember Fangio's kidnapping?  
>
> Norm
> '60 Alfa Spider with Ferrari seats (GTB/Lusso)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: red5hilser [at] aol.com [mailto:red5hilser [at] aol.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:28 AM
> To: Norm
> Cc: Staxwax [at] aol.com; MaxEd49 [at] aol.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com;
> Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill.
>
>
> Hey Ken: When I was driving in California there were guard rails to bounce
> you back in case of a spin. In Arizona we had flat desert land. But here in
> Baja Arkansas all we have are 5 to 10 foot ditches beside most roads,
> bordered by big solid trees on both sides. Sometimes when I 'let it all hang
> out' here on 2 lane twisty roads, I flash back to some horrific photos I saw
> of de Portago's crash in the 1957 Mille Miglia when his engine hood folded
> back and cut him in half. But, on the bright side ... the 2007 tag on my
> 'Shitbox' was only $21.00 for the year.
>  
> Yer pal, 'Shitbox' Bubba
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rentiers [at] mac.com
> To: red5hilser [at] aol.com
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill.
>
>
> John:
>
> Poorly designed ramps. Roadways built to minimum standards, broken  
> pavement in disrepair with deep ruts that grab front wheels, potholes  
> that can break suspensions, red light cameras that increase rear end  
> collisions, especially when the yellow light interval is deliberately  
> shortened. Abject lack of driver training and a nation of 'drivers'  
> weaned on 55 MPH limits and so bored by the snail's pace on modern  
> roadways that when young men ask "what does she have under there?"  
> they are talking about the subwoofer, not the engine.
>
> Artificially low speed limits, an insatiable demand for more tax  
> money by power mad politicians who must buy the next election by  
> inventing new forms of public largesse and an insurance industry that  
> profits greedily as points accumulate and premiums rise, aided and  
> abetted by the advanced radar devices GEICO and others supply local  
> cops.( pant pant pant... gasps for breath....)
>
> Meanwhile fatalities per 100,000 miles have fallen steadily since the  
> 1940s, despite the NMSL, imposed in 1972, rescinded in 1995. Despite  
> heavy increases in traffic unaccompanied by any significant new  
> highway construction for decades as dollars are poured in to mass  
> transit boondoggles no one rides and roadways are so poorly designed  
> concrete blocks fall from above to crush hapless Boston motorists.
>
> Public roads are analogous to public restrooms - dirty, broken and  
> dangerous.
>
> Flying is no solution unless you fly in Gulfstreams. Standing in a  
> line of 200 people with you shoes in one hand while holding up your  
> belt-free pants with the other, waiting to be interrogated and then  
> crushed between two seats like a tin of albacore tuna holds little  
> appeal. The great trains are all gone, Amtrak is an abject joke  
> beyond the northeast corridor.
>
> In the Dark Ages, after Rome fell, travel became difficult, trade  
> impossible and people isolated. Near the end Rome had 48 Emperors in  
> 50 years, all of whom were murdered by their successors or the public  
> at large. We seem to be bereft of statesmen once again, judging by  
> the recent Parade of Clowns in DC. I hope my deep sense of foreboding  
> is a false one. Perhaps we will elect another Clinton, that will make  
> two Bushes and two Clintons; could a new American Monarchy be our  
> sorry fate?
>
> On with the Circuses! Circus Bernicus begins in Melbourne March 18 -  
> Forza ! Forza !
>
>
> ken
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:56 AM, John Allison wrote:
>
> > Hey Ken,
> >
> >
> > So now I am living in Minnesota and I have discovered something rather 
> > silly.  They have a goal to reach 0 traffic fatalities.  I don't see 
> > this as a realistic goal, but by God they will funnel my money into 
> > that goal.
> >
> > One of their methods of attack includes an increase in speeding 
> > citations.  They don't plan designing roads that safer, i.e. less 
> > blind turns, not slowing to 35mph speed limit on the interstate.  This 
> > is a place with snow, ice, and the tightest turns, on ramps, and off 
> > ramps I have witnessed.  I never hear reports of fatalities due to an 
> > idiot of a civil engineer.
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:19:42 +0000 GMT
> From: "clyde" <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>, "Home" <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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> I would like to see how capable
> Sheepdip is on his 2 wheel Ducati on a track with me !
>
> Clyde
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:55:52 
> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
>
> I want to see how capable Clyde's 512TR is with his KMart Kelly Charger GT
> radials!
>
> LS
>
>
> --- Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 3/5/07, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Damn, that sounds fun!!!
> > >
> > > When do we start?
> > >
> > > LS
> > 
> > 
> > As soon as I get down to DC...:)
> > 
> > Clyde should put his car in the belly of his plane and come visit us in
> > the
> > nation's capital....
> > 
> > FG
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:27:59 -0600
> From: Ric Rainbolt <ricrain [at] airmail.net>
> Subject: [Ferrari] Just saw a 599 GTB
> To: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070305162522.036d37d0 [at] airmail.net>
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>
> Just got a close up look at a 599 GTB in silver. *Much* better 
> looking that I expected from the pictures. Not sure about the very 
> far forward part of the the nose, but the SPECs... DAMN..
>
> 0-100kmh (62mph)        3.7
> 0-124kmh (124mph0       11.0
> 150ms gear change.
>
> Roomier and better interior than the car it replaces.
>
> Mmmmmmm.
>
> Very tasty,
> Ric Rainbolt
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:47:00 -0500
> From: red5hilser [at] aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill. - Portago
> To: alfaowner [at] sprynet.com
> Cc: Staxwax [at] aol.com, ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com, MaxEd49 [at] aol.com,
>         Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com
> Message-ID: <8C92D8F526F3E80-1934-1AE [at] mblk-r32.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hey Norm: The Oct/Nov 2003 issue of Cavallino has a beautiful 10 page
> pictorial feature on Taruffi's winning 355S, #535. Believe it or not, on
> August 7, 1964, it was sold to Al Allin by Edward Gelder for the grand sum
> of $3,500 usd. In 1995 it was sold for $7.5 million to some Brit named
> Ecclestone. He kept it until  1998 and sold it to John Mccaw (no price
> available). What's it worth now?
>  
> Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alfaowner [at] sprynet.com
> To: red5hilser [at] aol.com
> Cc: Staxwax [at] aol.com; MaxEd49 [at] aol.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com;
> Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com
> Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill. - Portago
>
>
> Speaking of Portago - try to catch the next issue of Vintage Racecar (find
> it at Border's) in about 2 weeks.  We'll have 7 pages of photos & story by
> Robert Newman on the ill-fated race.  Includes some pix of Portago & Nelson
> in the Ferrari 335S, as well as an artist's step-by-step drawing of the
> crash events.
>
> Also of interest to Ferrari racing fans - a report by Art Evans on the 1958
> Cuba GP including pix.  Remember Fangio's kidnapping?  
>
> Norm
> '60 Alfa Spider with Ferrari seats (GTB/Lusso)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: red5hilser [at] aol.com [mailto:red5hilser [at] aol.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:28 AM
> To: Norm
> Cc: Staxwax [at] aol.com; MaxEd49 [at] aol.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com;
> Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill.
>
>
> Hey Ken: When I was driving in California there were guard rails to bounce
> you back in case of a spin. In Arizona we had flat desert land. But here in
> Baja Arkansas all we have are 5 to 10 foot ditches beside most roads,
> bordered by big solid trees on both sides. Sometimes when I 'let it all hang
> out' here on 2 lane twisty roads, I flash back to some horrific photos I saw
> of de Portago's crash in the 1957 Mille Miglia when his engine hood folded
> back and cut him in half. But, on the bright side ... the 2007 tag on my
> 'Shitbox' was only $21.00 for the year.
>  
> Yer pal, 'Shitbox' Bubba
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rentiers [at] mac.com
> To: red5hilser [at] aol.com
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 5:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Speed Doesn't Kill.
>
>
> John:
>
> Poorly designed ramps. Roadways built to minimum standards, broken  
> pavement in disrepair with deep ruts that grab front wheels, potholes  
> that can break suspensions, red light cameras that increase rear end  
> collisions, especially when the yellow light interval is deliberately  
> shortened. Abject lack of driver training and a nation of 'drivers'  
> weaned on 55 MPH limits and so bored by the snail's pace on modern  
> roadways that when young men ask "what does she have under there?"  
> they are talking about the subwoofer, not the engine.
>
> Artificially low speed limits, an insatiable demand for more tax  
> money by power mad politicians who must buy the next election by  
> inventing new forms of public largesse and an insurance industry that  
> profits greedily as points accumulate and premiums rise, aided and  
> abetted by the advanced radar devices GEICO and others supply local  
> cops.( pant pant pant... gasps for breath....)
>
> Meanwhile fatalities per 100,000 miles have fallen steadily since the  
> 1940s, despite the NMSL, imposed in 1972, rescinded in 1995. Despite  
> heavy increases in traffic unaccompanied by any significant new  
> highway construction for decades as dollars are poured in to mass  
> transit boondoggles no one rides and roadways are so poorly designed  
> concrete blocks fall from above to crush hapless Boston motorists.
>
> Public roads are analogous to public restrooms - dirty, broken and  
> dangerous.
>
> Flying is no solution unless you fly in Gulfstreams. Standing in a  
> line of 200 people with you shoes in one hand while holding up your  
> belt-free pants with the other, waiting to be interrogated and then  
> crushed between two seats like a tin of albacore tuna holds little  
> appeal. The great trains are all gone, Amtrak is an abject joke  
> beyond the northeast corridor.
>
> In the Dark Ages, after Rome fell, travel became difficult, trade  
> impossible and people isolated. Near the end Rome had 48 Emperors in  
> 50 years, all of whom were murdered by their successors or the public  
> at large. We seem to be bereft of statesmen once again, judging by  
> the recent Parade of Clowns in DC. I hope my deep sense of foreboding  
> is a false one. Perhaps we will elect another Clinton, that will make  
> two Bushes and two Clintons; could a new American Monarchy be our  
> sorry fate?
>
> On with the Circuses! Circus Bernicus begins in Melbourne March 18 -  
> Forza ! Forza !
>
>
> ken
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:56 AM, John Allison wrote:
>
> > Hey Ken,
> >
> >
> > So now I am living in Minnesota and I have discovered something rather 
> > silly.  They have a goal to reach 0 traffic fatalities.  I don't see 
> > this as a realistic goal, but by God they will funnel my money into 
> > that goal.
> >
> > One of their methods of attack includes an increase in speeding 
> > citations.  They don't plan designing roads that safer, i.e. less 
> > blind turns, not slowing to 35mph speed limit on the interstate.  This 
> > is a place with snow, ice, and the tightest turns, on ramps, and off 
> > ramps I have witnessed.  I never hear reports of fatalities due to an 
> > idiot of a civil engineer.
> >
> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:29:26 -0500
> From: "Pat Scopelliti" <pscopell [at] stny.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SPOILER: Re:  plus ca' meme, plus ca' change
> To: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <013a01c75f7e$1de5b5a0$c801a8c0 [at] patspc>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> As Montoya did his idiocy, anyone hear the sound of laughter wafted across
> the Atlantic?  Seems like it sounded like Ron Dennis doing a classic
> ROTFLMAO.
>
> "I guess Scott didn't see me?"  What an idiot!
>
> Pat
>
> Pat Scopelliti
> pscopell [at] stny.rr.com
> 607-731-8584
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Rentiers [mailto:rentiers [at] mac.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:23 PM
> To: Pat Scopelliti
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SPOILER: Re: plus ca' meme, plus ca' change
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Tom Reynolds wrote:
>
> > No SPOILER, Ken?
> > Shame on you.
> > Tom
>
> SPOILER? This was NASCAR. That would be like spoiling the outcome of  
> a WWF grudge match between Stone Cold Steve Austin and the Hardy Boyz. 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:12:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: clyde <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net>, Home
>         <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <313523.76902.qm [at] web56710.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I'll take that challenge as long as you wear your Janet Jackson "Nasty
> Boys" Ferrari jacket!
>
> LS
>
> --- clyde <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net> wrote:
>
> > I would like to see how capable
> > Sheepdip is on his 2 wheel Ducati on a track with me !
> > 
> > Clyde
> > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:55:52 
> > To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> > Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> > 
> > I want to see how capable Clyde's 512TR is with his KMart Kelly Charger
> > GT
> > radials!
> > 
> > LS
> > 
> > 
> > --- Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 3/5/07, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Damn, that sounds fun!!!
> > > >
> > > > When do we start?
> > > >
> > > > LS
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As soon as I get down to DC...:)
> > > 
> > > Clyde should put his car in the belly of his plane and come visit us
> > in
> > > the
> > > nation's capital....
> > > 
> > > FG
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:28:16 -0600
> From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <A4C54459-E94A-425F-8A1B-B5F55D0855FB [at] mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=UTF-8;  format=flowed
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2007, at 6:12 PM, LS wrote:
>
> > I'll take that challenge as long as you wear your Janet Jackson "Nasty
> > Boys" Ferrari jacket!
> >
> > LS
> ?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:16:40 +0000
> From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: "clyde" <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net>,       "The 
> FerrariList"
>         <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID:
>         
> <494291374-1173147232-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-1300580051- [at] 
> bxe014-cell02.bi
> sx.prod.on.blackberry>
>         
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> Now that's freakin' funny!!!!
>
> Put that on a mug would ya!
>
> Jim
> Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "clyde" <clyderomero [at] mycingular.blackberry.net>
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:58:41 
> To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
>
> That would not be fun
> It would be like having prison sex!
> You would be all mine!
>
> Clyde
> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:45:12 
> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
>
> In the spirit of Ferrari related content, I ask:
>
> Where's Erik Nielsen to defend the 365 gt/4 2+2/400 series camp?
>
> And will Clyde race anybody who challenges him? I'd like to battle him 0-100
> for fun...
>
> :)
>
> FG
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:22:17 -0500
> From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Quality of drivers (NO F CONTENT)
> To: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Message-ID: <024e01c75f96$5425b940$0202a8c0 [at] ACERASPIRE>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Ken wrote:<<I was busted, age 5, for playing "doctor" with the little girl
> >>
>
> While most on this list would find that bust reason for rejoicing a little
> boy doing something normal - the media would turn you into a pedophile.
> Just like we have a 6 year old boy being charged with sexual assault for
> kissing a 6 year old female classmate.  The height of absurdity.  Or the
> little boy (aged 9) charged with violating the schools "no guns" policy
> because he pointed his finger at another child and said Bang! Bang!  Or the
> girl suspended for bringing a dull butter knife to cut her apple because her
> new braces made it difficult to eat the apple whole - her mom put the knife
> in her lunch bag.
>
> I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish with that kind of nonsense
> - evidently the local school teachers/principles are too stupid to handle
> those kinds of things with out a "Policy"..  IMHO, the people who come up
> with the kinds of zero tolerance policy's that do the above should be placed
> in a rubber room where they can't harm others!  But I fear they are holding
> a well paying administrative positions in some school system taking down
> $100K + to destroy childrens lives.
>
> Sorry about the ramble - 
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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> ...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Ken Rentiers 
>   To: LarryT 
>   Cc: ken rentiers ; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
>   Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:27 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Quality of drivers (NO F CONTENT)
>
>
>
>
>   On Mar 5, 2007, at 10:03 AM, LarryT wrote:
>
>
>     Like most people I have a life
>
>
>
>   As do/did I which is why I could not run for dog catcher. The only people
> who can withstand the heat these days have lead pristine existences so
> boring that, when elected, they are by nature completely ineffectual. I
> wonder how Thos Jefferson or someone like Jackson would have withstood
> modern pre-election scrutiny, which begins with your pre-K records? 
>
>
>   It would take the MSM about 3 days to find out I was busted, age 5, for
> playing "doctor" with the little girl across the alley. 
>
>
>   ken
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:38:46 -0600
> From: "Erik Nielsen" <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Just saw a 599 GTB
> To: "Ric Rainbolt" <ricrain [at] airmail.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID:
>         <f9f738e10703051938p876e27h5835113ae0a2e039 [at] mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I spent most of Pebble Beach with Jason Castriota last year, if anyone
> orders one and wants some special goodies added, ask.
>
> Cheers,
> Erik
>
> On 3/5/07, Ric Rainbolt <ricrain [at] airmail.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just got a close up look at a 599 GTB in silver. *Much* better
> > looking that I expected from the pictures. Not sure about the very
> > far forward part of the the nose, but the SPECs... DAMN..
> >
> > 0-100kmh (62mph)        3.7
> > 0-124kmh (124mph0       11.0
> > 150ms gear change.
> >
> > Roomier and better interior than the car it replaces.
> >
> > Mmmmmmm.
> >
> > Very tasty,
> > Ric Rainbolt
> >
> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:49:27 -0800
> From: "AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com" <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
> To: "Ferrari List" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <02ce01c75fa2$719e5110$0200a8c0 [at] OfficePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm working on it now ... 
> -Bob
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: LS 
>   To: AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com 
>   Cc: The FerrariList 
>   Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:40 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
>
>
>   Damn, that sounds fun!!!
>
>   When do we start?
>
>   LS
>
>   --- "AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com" <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>   > Hey ... that gives me an idea. I own 0-100-0.com and have never done
>   > anything with it. 
>   > 
>   > If y'all wanted to have some video fun, putting your foot where your
>   > mouth is (so to speak), I'll create a simple social network site with
>   > video, etc. -- where you can post your quick kills. 
>   > 
>   > Or should I just shut up and go back to lurk mode? 
>   > 
>   > - Bob Prosser
>   > 
>   > -----------------
>   > 
>   > That would not be fun
>   > It would be like having prison sex!
>   > You would be all mine!
>   > 
>   > Clyde
>   > Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>   > 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: "Fellippe Galletta" <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
>   > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:45:12 
>   > To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
>   > Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>   > Subject: [Ferrari] FG pumps up the signal (volume two)
>   > 
>   > In the spirit of Ferrari related content, I ask:
>   > 
>   > Where's Erik Nielsen to defend the 365 gt/4 2+2/400 series camp?
>   > 
>   > And will Clyde race anybody who challenges him? I'd like to battle him
>   > 0-100
>   > for fun...
>   > 
>   > :)
>   > 
>   > FG
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:54:27 -0800
> From: Todd Walke <racertod [at] racertodd.com>
> Subject: [Ferrari] Nothing sings like a V-12...
> To: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEWgxCGQhoU
>
> Six and a half minutes of pure audio heaven.  A 250 SWB being driven like 
> The Old Man intended.
>
>
> Todd
> Seattle,WA
> '86 GTI, Red of course. (exciting racey car)  264,000 miles
> '87 Golf, Polar Silver. (boring work car)     606,000 miles <- Yeah, baby!
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