Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 328 brake pad, suggestions? Which Compound?

[Dave Handa (dave]

Robert,
I posted all the info for you on F-chat in the Technical section....you
posted twice, I responded in your second (lower down) thread.

R4S is what most everyone is using.  The R4 is the more track dedicated pad.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rehkopf [mailto:CaptRehkopf [at] msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:16 AM
To: dave [at] davehanda.com
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 328 brake pad, suggestions? Which Compound?

Steve,
Which Compound?
Thank You

Robert Rehkopf


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jenkins" <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>
To: "'Robert Rehkopf'" <CaptRehkopf [at] msn.com>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] 328 brake pad, suggestions?


+1 for the Porterfields.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rehkopf [mailto:CaptRehkopf [at] msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:56 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] 328 brake pad, suggestions?


Hi all,
Need some brake pads. Mostly street and some track. I had researched this
awhile back but forgot what I found out, sometimers disease. Porterfield's?
Thank You

Robert Rehkopf


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>    2. Re: A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC (Rick Lindsay)
>    3. NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts?? (LS)
>    4. Re: A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC (Doug and Terri Anderson)
>    5. Re: A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC (Rui Gigante)
>    6. Re: NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts?? (Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com)
>    7. Re: A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC (Martin Stark)
>    8. Re: A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC (Rui Gigante)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:58:31 -0400
> From: "Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com" <ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> To: Steve Jenkins <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>
> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <15907309-2A6E-4D5B-8C40-F4DCE2A48887 [at] hotmail.com>
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> SJ Great minds ...
>
> Scottie
>
> On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:11 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote:
>
> > +1. I thought "AMG" right away, too. I think they look perfect!
> >
> > SteveJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com [mailto:ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:13 PM
> > To: Steve Jenkins
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> >
> >
> > They look an awful lot like the period AMG wheel option.  Not too
> > blingy at all.
> >
> > Scottie
> >
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Folks,
> >>
> >>    I took advantage of a massive TireRack sale and
> >> put 19" wheels and tires on my '98 SL500.  Some said
> >> it would look an abomination and others said it would
> >> drive terribly - and yet others said that they have
> >> plus-sized their wheels and they did really well.  I
> >> figure I couldn't hurt the looks much given that it
> >> had 16" CHROME after-market pseudo-Mercedes wheels.
> >>
> >>    Here's what I have found; Yes, the car looks a
> >> little 'youngish' for my likes but its not bad.  Of
> >> course, taste is in the mouth of the beholder and we
> >> all know the opinions-simile.  Here's how the car
> >> looks: http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0727.JPG .  You
> >> either kinda like it or you just puked!  Either way,
> >> I'm not there to see (or smell) it.  If you can stand
> >> it, here's a 3/4 front view:
> >> http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0730.JPG .  I now need
> >> to clean up the suspension and brake hardware - now
> >> that its all visible - and perhaps repaint the
> >> calipers back silver.
> >>    The ride height is the same as with the 16" wheels
> >> and correct tires, so there is no distortion there.
> >> The big change is that the sidewall is 1-1/2" shorter:
> >> http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0729.JPG (not to
> >> mention 20mm wider tread).  It is kinda cool that the
> >> M-B star inserts are the older style with the blue
> >> surround.  My car's interior and top are blue.
> >>    Now let's forget the appearance and talk drive.  In
> >> short, I am very pleased.  To my tastes, the stock
> >> SL500 ride is that of a luxury car.  It is soft but
> >> sure footed.  And we all know that 315hp is a good
> >> thing.  What I find with the shorter sidewalls is a
> >> much stiffer ride.  The car feels more like a sports
> >> car.  Yes, the smooth luxury car feel is still there
> >> in straight and level flight but given a little
> >> 'attitude', the car feels the road much better.  I
> >> hate to put it this way but...  You know how a BMW
> >> feels sooooo much better than a Honda or Toyota?
> >> That's the difference I now feel in my SL.
> >>    So the bottom line is that I kinda like the more
> >> aggressive look - if a little youthful - and I can
> >> deal with that easily for the improved feel of the
> >> road.
> >>    I am pleased - whatever that says about me. :-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rick
> >> '98 M-B SL500
> >> other stuff
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:05:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> To: "Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com" <ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com>
> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <427531.78636.qm [at] web82306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> An interesting point or two.
>
> I am on the Ferrari List, of course, but also the SL
> list and an MG list.  The Ferrari guys are 90%+
> favorable with advice to lower the car a little and
> upgrade the brakes.  The SL guys are also 90%+
> positive and recommend the AMG springs which lower the
> car about 1-1/2".  The MG guys just flamed me with
> boy-racer insults. :-P  Then again, the earlier two
> groups are running with about a 10-fold larger car
> budget than the later.  Interesting...
>
> rick
>
> --- "Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com"
> <ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > SJ Great minds ...
> >
> > Scottie
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:11 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote:
> >
> > > +1. I thought "AMG" right away, too. I think they
> > look perfect!
> > >
> > > SteveJ
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com
> > [mailto:ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:13 PM
> > > To: Steve Jenkins
> > > Cc: The FerrariList
> > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 -
> > NMGC, NFC
> > >
> > >
> > > They look an awful lot like the period AMG wheel
> > option.  Not too
> > > blingy at all.
> > >
> > > Scottie
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 22, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Folks,
> > >>
> > >>    I took advantage of a massive TireRack sale
> > and
> > >> put 19" wheels and tires on my '98 SL500.  Some
> > said
> > >> it would look an abomination and others said it
> > would
> > >> drive terribly - and yet others said that they
> > have
> > >> plus-sized their wheels and they did really well.
> >  I
> > >> figure I couldn't hurt the looks much given that
> > it
> > >> had 16" CHROME after-market pseudo-Mercedes
> > wheels.
> > >>
> > >>    Here's what I have found; Yes, the car looks a
> > >> little 'youngish' for my likes but its not bad.
> > Of
> > >> course, taste is in the mouth of the beholder and
> > we
> > >> all know the opinions-simile.  Here's how the car
> > >> looks: http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0727.JPG .
> > You
> > >> either kinda like it or you just puked!  Either
> > way,
> > >> I'm not there to see (or smell) it.  If you can
> > stand
> > >> it, here's a 3/4 front view:
> > >> http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0730.JPG .  I now
> > need
> > >> to clean up the suspension and brake hardware -
> > now
> > >> that its all visible - and perhaps repaint the
> > >> calipers back silver.
> > >>    The ride height is the same as with the 16"
> > wheels
> > >> and correct tires, so there is no distortion
> > there.
> > >> The big change is that the sidewall is 1-1/2"
> > shorter:
> > >> http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0729.JPG (not to
> > >> mention 20mm wider tread).  It is kinda cool that
> > the
> > >> M-B star inserts are the older style with the
> > blue
> > >> surround.  My car's interior and top are blue.
> > >>    Now let's forget the appearance and talk
> > drive.  In
> > >> short, I am very pleased.  To my tastes, the
> > stock
> > >> SL500 ride is that of a luxury car.  It is soft
> > but
> > >> sure footed.  And we all know that 315hp is a
> > good
> > >> thing.  What I find with the shorter sidewalls is
> > a
> > >> much stiffer ride.  The car feels more like a
> > sports
> > >> car.  Yes, the smooth luxury car feel is still
> > there
> > >> in straight and level flight but given a little
> > >> 'attitude', the car feels the road much better.
> > I
> > >> hate to put it this way but...  You know how a
> > BMW
> > >> feels sooooo much better than a Honda or Toyota?
> > >> That's the difference I now feel in my SL.
> > >>    So the bottom line is that I kinda like the
> > more
> > >> aggressive look - if a little youthful - and I
> > can
> > >> deal with that easily for the improved feel of
> > the
> > >> road.
> > >>    I am pleased - whatever that says about me.
> > :-)
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Rick
> > >> '98 M-B SL500
> > >> other stuff
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:06:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Ferrari] NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts??
> To: ferrari list <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <764716.32066.qm [at] web56704.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>
> Anyone with firsthand experiences on a '98 CL500?
>
> I haven't had a chance to do a thorough pre-purchase inspection, but the
> car's A/C blows warm and the ABS/Traction Control lights are lit. It has
> about 70k miles and runs quite well. There is a light clunk on the
> passenger side over bumps.
>
> Is this thing totalled?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> LS
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:11:11 -0700
> From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> To: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <007801c7cd2a$f2f12940$e4263442 [at] YOUR6EA8154886>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hmmm, well, just promise the MG crowd you will leave off the decals and
> tomato soup can exhaust tips - no promises here - but they may buy in. heh
> heh
> DOUG
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
>
>
> > An interesting point or two.
> >
> > I am on the Ferrari List, of course, but also the SL
> > list and an MG list.  The Ferrari guys are 90%+
> > favorable with advice to lower the car a little and
> > upgrade the brakes.  The SL guys are also 90%+
> > positive and recommend the AMG springs which lower the
> > car about 1-1/2".  The MG guys just flamed me with
> > boy-racer insults. :-P  Then again, the earlier two
> > groups are running with about a 10-fold larger car
> > budget than the later.  Interesting...
> >
> > rick
> >
> > --- "Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com"
> > <ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> SJ Great minds ...
> >>
> >> Scottie
> >>
> >> On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:11 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1. I thought "AMG" right away, too. I think they
> >> look perfect!
> >> >
> >> > SteveJ
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com
> >> [mailto:ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:13 PM
> >> > To: Steve Jenkins
> >> > Cc: The FerrariList
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 -
> >> NMGC, NFC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > They look an awful lot like the period AMG wheel
> >> option.  Not too
> >> > blingy at all.
> >> >
> >> > Scottie
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 22, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello Folks,
> >> >>
> >> >>    I took advantage of a massive TireRack sale
> >> and
> >> >> put 19" wheels and tires on my '98 SL500.  Some
> >> said
> >> >> it would look an abomination and others said it
> >> would
> >> >> drive terribly - and yet others said that they
> >> have
> >> >> plus-sized their wheels and they did really well.
> >>  I
> >> >> figure I couldn't hurt the looks much given that
> >> it
> >> >> had 16" CHROME after-market pseudo-Mercedes
> >> wheels.
> >> >>
> >> >>    Here's what I have found; Yes, the car looks a
> >> >> little 'youngish' for my likes but its not bad.
> >> Of
> >> >> course, taste is in the mouth of the beholder and
> >> we
> >> >> all know the opinions-simile.  Here's how the car
> >> >> looks: http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0727.JPG .
> >> You
> >> >> either kinda like it or you just puked!  Either
> >> way,
> >> >> I'm not there to see (or smell) it.  If you can
> >> stand
> >> >> it, here's a 3/4 front view:
> >> >> http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0730.JPG .  I now
> >> need
> >> >> to clean up the suspension and brake hardware -
> >> now
> >> >> that its all visible - and perhaps repaint the
> >> >> calipers back silver.
> >> >>    The ride height is the same as with the 16"
> >> wheels
> >> >> and correct tires, so there is no distortion
> >> there.
> >> >> The big change is that the sidewall is 1-1/2"
> >> shorter:
> >> >> http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0729.JPG (not to
> >> >> mention 20mm wider tread).  It is kinda cool that
> >> the
> >> >> M-B star inserts are the older style with the
> >> blue
> >> >> surround.  My car's interior and top are blue.
> >> >>    Now let's forget the appearance and talk
> >> drive.  In
> >> >> short, I am very pleased.  To my tastes, the
> >> stock
> >> >> SL500 ride is that of a luxury car.  It is soft
> >> but
> >> >> sure footed.  And we all know that 315hp is a
> >> good
> >> >> thing.  What I find with the shorter sidewalls is
> >> a
> >> >> much stiffer ride.  The car feels more like a
> >> sports
> >> >> car.  Yes, the smooth luxury car feel is still
> >> there
> >> >> in straight and level flight but given a little
> >> >> 'attitude', the car feels the road much better.
> >> I
> >> >> hate to put it this way but...  You know how a
> >> BMW
> >> >> feels sooooo much better than a Honda or Toyota?
> >> >> That's the difference I now feel in my SL.
> >> >>    So the bottom line is that I kinda like the
> >> more
> >> >> aggressive look - if a little youthful - and I
> >> can
> >> >> deal with that easily for the improved feel of
> >> the
> >> >> road.
> >> >>    I am pleased - whatever that says about me.
> >> :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick
> >> >> '98 M-B SL500
> >> >> other stuff
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:11:57 +0100
> From: "Rui Gigante" <rui.gigante [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> To: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID:
> <4be76d6c0707230611q3c06900an70a15d2f6e916f38 [at] mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 7/23/07, Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > An interesting point or two.
> >
> > I am on the Ferrari List, of course, but also the SL
> > list and an MG list.  The Ferrari guys are 90%+
> > favorable with advice to lower the car a little and
> > upgrade the brakes.  The SL guys are also 90%+
> > positive and recommend the AMG springs which lower the
> > car about 1-1/2".
>
>
> Just curious ... Are the AMG springs progressive?
>
>
>  The MG guys just flamed me with
> > boy-racer insults. :-P  Then again, the earlier two
> > groups are running with about a 10-fold larger car
> > budget than the later.  Interesting...
>
>
>
> Yes, you could probably buy a BGT for the price of those wheels and tires
> :-)
>
> Rui - with TWO BGT's in the garage, waiting for the 328 to be perfect :-)
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:34:22 -0400
> From: "Ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com" <ferrarisimo [at] hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts??
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <A7CF5F2A-74F1-436F-B189-0EE7D5258299 [at] hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Lash:
>
> No way to know what the ABS / TC light is besides hooking it up to
> the computer.  Could be minor (low fluid) could be a major failure
> (abs pump).
>
> Clunk could be a suspension issue.  suspension is a pretty trick set
> up with standard suspension and a leveling (and raising and lowering)
> system.  Parts are pricey but readily available.
>
> A/C, like the others could be a small leak - low "freon" or a major
> problem with the compressor or evaporator - both of which are pricey
> to replace.
>
> Sounds like this one may have been through the wars, or at least
> ignored for a while.
>
> There are lots of them out there and prices are quite reasonable.
> When it runs well is is a surprisingly nice car.  I was never a fan,
> but have one that I care for in the warehouse and have come to really
> respect its abilities as a GT car.
>
> Scottie
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2007, at 9:06 AM, LS wrote:
>
> > Anyone with firsthand experiences on a '98 CL500?
> >
> > I haven't had a chance to do a thorough pre-purchase inspection,
> > but the car's A/C blows warm and the ABS/Traction Control lights
> > are lit. It has about 70k miles and runs quite well. There is a
> > light clunk on the passenger side over bumps.
> >
> > Is this thing totalled?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > LS
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:35:25 -0400
> From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> To: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <46A4BCAD.8090307 [at] Copper.net>
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>
> Kinda gives the car a more "purposeful" look.  When I installed 18"
> wheels on the TR the handling improvement was substantial.
>
> Rick Lindsay wrote:
>
> >Hello Folks,
> >
> >   I took advantage of a massive TireRack sale and
> >put 19" wheels and tires on my '98 SL500.  Some said
> >it would look an abomination and others said it would
> >drive terribly - and yet others said that they have
> >plus-sized their wheels and they did really well.  I
> >figure I couldn't hurt the looks much given that it
> >had 16" CHROME after-market pseudo-Mercedes wheels.
> >
> >   Here's what I have found; Yes, the car looks a
> >little 'youngish' for my likes but its not bad.  Of
> >course, taste is in the mouth of the beholder and we
> >all know the opinions-simile.  Here's how the car
> >looks: http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0727.JPG .  You
> >either kinda like it or you just puked!  Either way,
> >I'm not there to see (or smell) it.  If you can stand
> >it, here's a 3/4 front view:
> >http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0730.JPG .  I now need
> >to clean up the suspension and brake hardware - now
> >that its all visible - and perhaps repaint the
> >calipers back silver.
> >   The ride height is the same as with the 16" wheels
> >and correct tires, so there is no distortion there.
> >The big change is that the sidewall is 1-1/2" shorter:
> >http://www.aubard.us/SL500/HPIM0729.JPG (not to
> >mention 20mm wider tread).  It is kinda cool that the
> >M-B star inserts are the older style with the blue
> >surround.  My car's interior and top are blue.
> >   Now let's forget the appearance and talk drive.  In
> >short, I am very pleased.  To my tastes, the stock
> >SL500 ride is that of a luxury car.  It is soft but
> >sure footed.  And we all know that 315hp is a good
> >thing.  What I find with the shorter sidewalls is a
> >much stiffer ride.  The car feels more like a sports
> >car.  Yes, the smooth luxury car feel is still there
> >in straight and level flight but given a little
> >'attitude', the car feels the road much better.  I
> >hate to put it this way but...  You know how a BMW
> >feels sooooo much better than a Honda or Toyota?
> >That's the difference I now feel in my SL.
> >   So the bottom line is that I kinda like the more
> >aggressive look - if a little youthful - and I can
> >deal with that easily for the improved feel of the
> >road.
> >   I am pleased - whatever that says about me. :-)
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Rick
> >'98 M-B SL500
> >other stuff
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:04:25 +0100
> From: "Rui Gigante" <rui.gigante [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A change to my SL500 - NMGC, NFC
> To: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID:
> <4be76d6c0707230904y1a31e26aved31e2864eec2b70 [at] mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> The reason I asked about the progressive springs is that I had Eibach
> progressive springs in my Honda and they were GREAT! Gave good ride
> confort
> under normal driving and got stiffer under braking or hard cornering.
> Liked
> them a lot and they were TUV approved and road legal ! Cheap, too .....
>
>
>  On 7/23/07, John Allison <johnallison [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rui brings up an interesting thought.  How do progressive springs work?
> >
> > When I think spring, I think 1/2kx^2.  Would a progressive spring be
> > one where the k value changes as x changes?
> >
> > John
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:06:38 -0500
> From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts??
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <46A4EE2E.3090003 [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> They are very nice cars, but if I were you I'd spend a bit more and get
> the last most recent CL.  I believe 2000 was the first year for them.
> The ABS light could be something as simple as a brake sensor, or it
> could be an issue with the ABS computer itself.  The thinking is most
> likely a worn suspension part - maybe a bushing or a loose sway bar.
> The a/c is the bigger problem as the ENTIRE dashboard will have to come
> out in order to replace the compressor (which is 99/100 times the
> problem).  Not much cost in parts but a ton in labor.  If you are
> negotiating the price based on the problems you described I'd start with
> $5K off.  Of course you can also negotiate the the seller fixes all of
> the above problems at a mechanic of your choice, or at their dealership
> if they will warranty the work and parts for a year.  Are you buying
> from an individual or dealer?
>
> BEB
>
>
>
> LS wrote:
>
> >Anyone with firsthand experiences on a '98 CL500?
> >
> >I haven't had a chance to do a thorough pre-purchase inspection, but the
> >car's A/C blows warm and the ABS/Traction Control lights are lit. It has
> >about 70k miles and runs quite well. There is a light clunk on the
> >passenger side over bumps.
> >
> >Is this thing totalled?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >LS
> >
> >
> >
>
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> -- 
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>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:55:31 -0700
> From: " AutoWorld [at] RoadRunner.com" <autoworld [at] roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts??
> To: "FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <00a701c7cd6b$d60a1c10$0200a8c0 [at] Compaq>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> FYI, on the ABS light, I recently had to troubleshoot the same problem on
> my
> wife's MBZ of the same year. Besides the speed sensors that  Brian
> suggests
> (at the brakes and the driveline), the ABS indicator light can also mean
> you
> have simple things wrong like a faulty brake pedal switch, some bad bulbs
> in
> the rear cluster (filaments getting tired), or even a bad bulb cluster
> itself (looks fine, but has resistance issues). All of these items are
> inexpensive and DIY projects -- if you are so inclined.
>
> I suggest you find a local independent MBZ shop (not the dealer!) and have
> them read the fault codes before you get too worried.
>
> And check the forums. There are some good ones out there, such as
> www.mbworld.org/forums/
>
> -Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian E. Buxton
> To: Bob Prosser
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC- '98 MB CL500 Thoughts??
>
>
> They are very nice cars, but if I were you I'd spend a bit more and get
> the last most recent CL.  I believe 2000 was the first year for them.
> The ABS light could be something as simple as a brake sensor, or it
> could be an issue with the ABS computer itself.  The thinking is most
> likely a worn suspension part - maybe a bushing or a loose sway bar.
> The a/c is the bigger problem as the ENTIRE dashboard will have to come
> out in order to replace the compressor (which is 99/100 times the
> problem).  Not much cost in parts but a ton in labor.  If you are
> negotiating the price based on the problems you described I'd start with
> $5K off.  Of course you can also negotiate the the seller fixes all of
> the above problems at a mechanic of your choice, or at their dealership
> if they will warranty the work and parts for a year.  Are you buying
> from an individual or dealer?
>
> BEB
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:35:52 -0700
> From: "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Euro GP [Spoiler]
> To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <5B965F94-0824-43E7-AADA-34ADDFA85D76 [at] gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/victory-fails-to-put-
> alonso-in-positive-mood-at-mclaren-1043154.html
>
> divide and conquer!!
>
> http://www.feedmef1.com/html/modules.php?
> op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7762
>
> Is there a new mansekll afoot??
>
> http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070723154720.shtml
>
> Oh yea!!
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070723/od_nm/
> germany_nudist_dc;_ylt=A0WTcVUzfqVGY88AaBys0NUE
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:39:58 -0700
> From: "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Euro GP [Spoiler]
> To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Message-ID: <AD09C8CE-E445-478B-97B4-33CFCAE8D039 [at] gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> try this
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Robert W. Garven Jr. wrote:
>
> > <<http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/victory-fails-to-put-
> > alonso-in-positive-mood-at-mclaren-1043154.html>>
> >
> > divide and conquer!!
> >
> > <<http://www.feedmef1.com/html/modules.php?
> > op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7762>>
> >
> > Is there a new mansekll afoot??
> >
> > http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070723154720.shtml
> >
> > Oh yea!!
> >
> > <<http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070723/od_nm/
> > germany_nudist_dc;_ylt=A0WTcVUzfqVGY88AaBys0NUE>>
> >
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