Ferrari Mailing List: So long, and thanks for all the fish

(continued)

Denis, I've been a lister for 3 years, own an 85'TR, rarely post, and have,
like you, complained about the level of non-Ferrari content. Your posts have
always brought a level of reality with them, as well as humor, as in your
reference to the title of Doug Adams' fourth book in his "Hitchhiker"
trilogy. I read your Augsburg confessions, but still don't have a clue, so
here is my suggestion. Take a speed reading course, get a prescription for
Prozac, stay on the list....and lighten up....... 

Regards
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   1. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (Rick Lindsay)
   2. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (E M)
   3. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (philville dejazzd.com)
   4. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (Steve Jenkins)
   5. electric problem (Non Ferrari question) (James V. Cunningham)
   6. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (Peter Pless)
   7. Re: Al Gore' Personal Energy Use (NFC) (Tom Reynolds)
   8. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (jimshadow [at] verizon.net)
   9. Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish (Robert W. Garven Jr.)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:43:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Message-ID: <759626.69321.qm [at] web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Guys, as one who was away from he list for a couple of
years then came back, I found that NOTHING had
changed.  Same 95% bull s#!t content.   But the
remaining 5% is enough to keep me now in lurker-mode
(until I get sucker-punched into writing something
stupid).  FWIW, I joined this outfit in the fall of
1996 and bought my 308GTB in January of 1997.  I
wasn't first but I was early on in the queue.  Steve,
do you have any info like that?  A record of who
joined in what order perhaps?  It would be cool to
know one's sequential member number. :-)

May I recommend that you guys do as Steve Cook
suggests; set up a filtered folder and dump all the
List stuff into there.  That way, if you don't want to
read through guns, cigars, politics and cat abuse, you
can easily avoid doing so.  Who knows, someone might
just post something about the (hopefully) upcoming 308
event in Memphis!

For now, back into hiding,

Rick

--- LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> I might last another week here...
> 
> LS

---Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> It's been on my mind for a few months, but I've
> finally pulled the trigger.
> I'm done, I'm out.  

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:42:26 -0500
From: "E M" <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
To: BigHeadDennis [at] gmail.com
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Message-ID:
        <fbc36f3b0801161542n7db940d7l438f29a79c18c31b [at] mail.gmail.com>
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I'm not an Fcar owner, but I've been on the list a number of years now.
Whatever list I join, I seem to buy one of the cars eventually. :-)  I've
read and enjoyed your posts over the years. Sorry to see you leave.  Take
care Dennis and all the best.

Ed
911SC

On 16/01/2008, Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can't believe I've been on the Ferrari List for so long.  Since 1998, at
> least, so quite possibly a decade.  While I'm not one of the
> original-original folks, I've still stuck around for some time.  Until
> now.
>
> It's been on my mind for a few months, but I've finally pulled the
> trigger.
> I'm done, I'm out.  I tried to unsubscribe last week, but failed because
> I've been around so long that I thought that majordomo was still the mail
> server for this (I've since found the unsubscribe procedure, and will
> follow
> it after this last message gets posted).
>
> While I still have many friends out here, the signal-to-noise ratio has
> just
> made it way too difficult to maintain my membership.  I do love the
> convivial atmosphere of the Flist, but it's just too soul-sucking wading
> through the ridiculous crap that seems to make up 97% of the posts.
>
> I'm sending this email just to thank the friends I've made out here.  I've
> met a few dozen listers over the years, and am delighted to be able to
> call
> many of you my close and dear friends.  I am grateful to the FList and
> Steve
> Cook for enabling these friendships, as well as the invaluable Ferrari and
> automotive knowledge passed down through the years.  I still wear my
> One-Lap
> t-shirt, my Hallet shirt, use my Chairman clyDe mug,
>
> I just wanted to share a few parting memories and thoughts with you.  Hope
> it doesn't sound too much like memories inscribed in a high school
> yearbook.
>
> =======================
>
> I have lots of fond memories.  Just a few:
>
> Hanging out with Lashdeep and Creampuff and the Mid-Atlantic crew (Nick
> Thompson, Burdette, Passori, Boyd, Parker, the girls).
>
> Touring Seattle and hanging with Jenkins, Handa, and the rest of the
> Sea-Tac
> crew.
>
> Blasting round SC with Charles.
>
> Buying cars in a frenzy with Michael "Scallion".
>
> Bombing to Montreal with a phalanx of listers, like Lou Menditto, Ben Kao,
> Lash, Creamy and Chuckles, and watching clyDe almost start up another war
> with Canadians.
>
> Participating in the Flist One-Lap charity run with Alex Leventhal, Bill
> Shaw and Mini-Michael.
>
> Attending the FList gathering in Indy in 2000, with a bunch of
> Midwesterners, like Dave Craig (Lindsay?) and witnessing the legendary
> "hug."
>
> Watching Pless and AJ go at it over stickergate, again and again (Peter,
> god
> bless ya, let go it!  AJ *may* have screwed up a decade ago, but he's
> turned
> out to be a heckuva good guy.  :-)
>
> Watching Dr. Ken change a flat tire on his truck in the Tx heat right
> before
> he was going to operate on my eyes (he insisted that a Texan ought to
> change
> his own G-D tire).
>
> In Corning, NY for the FCA Meet, laughing at the ongoing antics of Keegan,
> socializing with Therese and working with Scopelliti.
>
> Witnessing the flaming star that was Peter Halpern.
>
> Laughing my ass off whenever the awesome clyDe (he's not real, we made him
> up!) managed to get someone's panties in a knot.
>
> Meeting some "locals", like Stark, Murray, Ashburne, Shaw and others - you
> know who you are.
>
> Always impressed by the lore and knowledge of Messrs. Rainbolt and
> Nielsen.
>
>
> Todd Walke - I've always been impressed by your logic, writing, erudition
> and common sense.  I hope we will meet one day.  You too, Mr. D&T
> Anderson.
> And you fall into this category, too, "Mr. Clean" (hanging out with
> Lashdeep
> in DC was too short).
>
> Conforti - fight the good fight, bro.
>
> =======================
>
> There are those who have already passed from this list, and whom I miss
> and
> hope they are doing well:  Al Chelini, Alex Leventhal, Ted Arneson, Dave
> Quick, Doc Fung, the Millers Steve & Elizabeth, Graham Welland, Jim Dunne,
> Jon Ward, Jonathan Haines, Larry Kingsland, Marci Haas, Margaret Gailey,
> Marty Loughlin, Michael Charness, Mike Fleischer, Paul Bennett, Peter
> Sward,
> Robert Ziino, John Rosevear, Tom Swift, Tom Buckley, and many others.
>
> =======================
>
> And who can forget some of the inane, stupid, unproductive, immature flame
> wars that I, looking back, can't believe I jumped into?  Ken Ross and his
> "I
> swear, I average 150 mph *by my GPS* in my 308 on my commute to work in NJ
> every day!".  Nate Aldous.  DG Shreeves.  I even got into it a few times
> with Scottie - lord, that was stupid, and glad we've both grown up.  :-)
> And Brian, while we will always disagree on some elements, I wish you
> ongoing success with your many automotive ventures.
>
> That's about it.  I'm sure there are a few that I've inadvertently left
> out;
> apologies.  And, admittedly, there are a few that I will be glad to be
> free
> from (woo-hoo!).  I hope that those that are still friends will keep in
> touch privately.  Who knows, I may be back like fellow prodigal son
> Lindsay.
> Or not.  But not anytime soon.
>
> In any event, I am outta here....
>
> vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:31:31 -0500
From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
To: BigHeadDennis [at] gmail.com
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Message-ID: <9eca87613c1867d9.478e5b93 [at] dejazzd.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

   Dennis
   If it will help convince you to stay, I will promise not to post
   anything that is not directly Ferrari related.
   Some times we all get side tracked and forget the original purpose of
   the list, but one thing that I believe is that many of us who are on
   the list feel a strong bond and this is with people that we may never
   even meet.

   Good luck and remember to drive fast, that way you will spend less
   time on the road.

   Regards Phil
   Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
   39 Churchill Drive
   Elverson Pa 19520
   610.525.8949
   And, go to: ... PhilvilleUSA.com

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:52:28 -0700
From: "Steve Jenkins" <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
To: <BigHeadDennis [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Message-ID: <001801c858a3$3cc97b90$6e00a8c0 [at] maple.jenkins.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

"I don't care what you say, in a non-gay way, I love Dennis Liu!"

SJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Liu [mailto:bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:32 PM
To: scook [at] gear21.com
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish

I can't believe I've been on the Ferrari List for so long.  Since 1998,
at
least, so quite possibly a decade.  While I'm not one of the
original-original folks, I've still stuck around for some time.  Until
now.

It's been on my mind for a few months, but I've finally pulled the
trigger.
I'm done, I'm out.  I tried to unsubscribe last week, but failed because
I've been around so long that I thought that majordomo was still the
mail
server for this (I've since found the unsubscribe procedure, and will
follow
it after this last message gets posted).

While I still have many friends out here, the signal-to-noise ratio has
just
made it way too difficult to maintain my membership.  I do love the
convivial atmosphere of the Flist, but it's just too soul-sucking wading
through the ridiculous crap that seems to make up 97% of the posts.

I'm sending this email just to thank the friends I've made out here.
I've
met a few dozen listers over the years, and am delighted to be able to
call
many of you my close and dear friends.  I am grateful to the FList and
Steve
Cook for enabling these friendships, as well as the invaluable Ferrari
and
automotive knowledge passed down through the years.  I still wear my
One-Lap
t-shirt, my Hallet shirt, use my Chairman clyDe mug, 

I just wanted to share a few parting memories and thoughts with you.
Hope
it doesn't sound too much like memories inscribed in a high school
yearbook.

=======================

I have lots of fond memories.  Just a few:  

Hanging out with Lashdeep and Creampuff and the Mid-Atlantic crew (Nick
Thompson, Burdette, Passori, Boyd, Parker, the girls).  

Touring Seattle and hanging with Jenkins, Handa, and the rest of the
Sea-Tac
crew.  

Blasting round SC with Charles.  

Buying cars in a frenzy with Michael "Scallion".  

Bombing to Montreal with a phalanx of listers, like Lou Menditto, Ben
Kao,
Lash, Creamy and Chuckles, and watching clyDe almost start up another
war
with Canadians.  

Participating in the Flist One-Lap charity run with Alex Leventhal, Bill
Shaw and Mini-Michael.

Attending the FList gathering in Indy in 2000, with a bunch of
Midwesterners, like Dave Craig (Lindsay?) and witnessing the legendary
"hug."  

Watching Pless and AJ go at it over stickergate, again and again (Peter,
god
bless ya, let go it!  AJ *may* have screwed up a decade ago, but he's
turned
out to be a heckuva good guy.  :-)

Watching Dr. Ken change a flat tire on his truck in the Tx heat right
before
he was going to operate on my eyes (he insisted that a Texan ought to
change
his own G-D tire).  

In Corning, NY for the FCA Meet, laughing at the ongoing antics of
Keegan,
socializing with Therese and working with Scopelliti.

Witnessing the flaming star that was Peter Halpern.

Laughing my ass off whenever the awesome clyDe (he's not real, we made
him
up!) managed to get someone's panties in a knot.

Meeting some "locals", like Stark, Murray, Ashburne, Shaw and others -
you
know who you are.

Always impressed by the lore and knowledge of Messrs. Rainbolt and
Nielsen.

Todd Walke - I've always been impressed by your logic, writing,
erudition
and common sense.  I hope we will meet one day.  You too, Mr. D&T
Anderson.
And you fall into this category, too, "Mr. Clean" (hanging out with
Lashdeep
in DC was too short).

Conforti - fight the good fight, bro.

=======================

There are those who have already passed from this list, and whom I miss
and
hope they are doing well:  Al Chelini, Alex Leventhal, Ted Arneson, Dave
Quick, Doc Fung, the Millers Steve & Elizabeth, Graham Welland, Jim
Dunne,
Jon Ward, Jonathan Haines, Larry Kingsland, Marci Haas, Margaret Gailey,
Marty Loughlin, Michael Charness, Mike Fleischer, Paul Bennett, Peter
Sward,
Robert Ziino, John Rosevear, Tom Swift, Tom Buckley, and many others.

=======================

And who can forget some of the inane, stupid, unproductive, immature
flame
wars that I, looking back, can't believe I jumped into?  Ken Ross and
his "I
swear, I average 150 mph *by my GPS* in my 308 on my commute to work in
NJ
every day!".  Nate Aldous.  DG Shreeves.  I even got into it a few times
with Scottie - lord, that was stupid, and glad we've both grown up.  :-)
And Brian, while we will always disagree on some elements, I wish you
ongoing success with your many automotive ventures.

That's about it.  I'm sure there are a few that I've inadvertently left
out;
apologies.  And, admittedly, there are a few that I will be glad to be
free
from (woo-hoo!).  I hope that those that are still friends will keep in
touch privately.  Who knows, I may be back like fellow prodigal son
Lindsay.
Or not.  But not anytime soon.

In any event, I am outta here....

vty,

--Dennis

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:11:31 -0500
From: "James V. Cunningham" <vikelj [at] comcast.net>
Subject: [Ferrari] electric problem (Non Ferrari question)
To: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Message-ID: <20080117021147.D0582430C26 [at] hermes.tigertech.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

I am installing water injection on my Porsche 911 which has been 
supercharged.  I am doing it my self and need some help.  I have a 
water pump, solenoid and hobbs switch.  I am using a four pole 
relay.  I have connected the positive side of the pump and solenoid 
to pole #87 and the negative side to pole #85.  Poles #86 and #30 are 
both connected to the battery.  Where do I place the hobbs pressure 
switch so that when I reach a certain boost, everything comes on?  I 
can get the pump and solenoid to work when I apply positive current 
to #30 and #86 but it seems that no matter where I place the hobbs 
switch, either nothing works or it works without the hobbs switch 
applying the vacum when the boost comes on.  I don't want it running 
all the time, just when I reach a certain boost (4 lbs).  Thanks.
Jim

James V. Cunningham, Esq.
410-625-7400
http://home.comcast.net/~vikelj/page3.html 

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:16:28 +1100
From: "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Message-ID:
        <20080117021611.FTGJ16537.oaamta05sl.mx.bigpond.com [at] desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

No I won't, and I don't know why the rest of you have...but that's just me.

You're making a mistake by leaving.

As long as you have a delete button, then there's no problem. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Liu [mailto:bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2008 8:32 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish

Watching Pless and AJ go at it over stickergate, again and again (Peter, god
bless ya, let go it!  AJ *may* have screwed up a decade ago, but he's turned
out to be a heckuva good guy.  :-)

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:17:39 -0600
From: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Al Gore' Personal Energy Use (NFC)
To: <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Message-ID: <009c01c858af$22b0eac0$6401a8c0 [at] ok.cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

Probably figures, and maybe rightly so, that he can influence things better
outside of politics.
Tom
Tulsa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Al Gore' Personal Energy Use (NFC)

>
>    I kind of agree with Dan, I was a great Al Gore fan and am among those
>    who feel that he was f'd out of the presidency.... but the bottom line
>    is that although he appears to use considerably more energy than the
>    "average", I am sure that he uses far less than many and in fact far
>    less than he might.
>
>    I think that global warming may be blown out of proportion, and that
>    there are those who will benefit by the rhetoric, but what if it isn't
>    (blown out of proportion) and we do nothing?
>
>    Would you have Mr. Gore move into a 2500sf bungalow some where and
>    read by candle light.
>
>    I will still listen to his story, try to figure out for my self that
>    which is correct and continue to live as I see fit, as should Al.
>
>    BTW, I wonder why he isn't running for Pres.,
>
>    Phil
>    Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
>    39 Churchill Drive
>    Elverson Pa 19520
>    610.525.8949
>    And, go to: ... PhilvilleUSA.com
>

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:48:48 +0000
From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
To: BigHeadDennis [at] gmail.com
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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This is a sad day for the list....its sad to see you go Dennis.   I've been
on this list since 1999 and though things have changed, a lot has stayed the
same.  It takes thick skin to hang around this place and a calloused
'delete' finger.  I can see where it can get old.   Though we've never met
(I was at F1 Indy, but didn't get a chance to say hi) I wish you the best. 
Forza Ferrari Friend!!!

Jim 
Sent from my BlackBerry? wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com>

Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:32:13 
To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish

I can't believe I've been on the Ferrari List for so long.  Since 1998, at
least, so quite possibly a decade.  While I'm not one of the
original-original folks, I've still stuck around for some time.  Until now.

It's been on my mind for a few months, but I've finally pulled the trigger.
I'm done, I'm out.  I tried to unsubscribe last week, but failed because
I've been around so long that I thought that majordomo was still the mail
server for this (I've since found the unsubscribe procedure, and will follow
it after this last message gets posted).

While I still have many friends out here, the signal-to-noise ratio has just
made it way too difficult to maintain my membership.  I do love the
convivial atmosphere of the Flist, but it's just too soul-sucking wading
through the ridiculous crap that seems to make up 97% of the posts.

I'm sending this email just to thank the friends I've made out here.  I've
met a few dozen listers over the years, and am delighted to be able to call
many of you my close and dear friends.  I am grateful to the FList and Steve
Cook for enabling these friendships, as well as the invaluable Ferrari and
automotive knowledge passed down through the years.  I still wear my One-Lap
t-shirt, my Hallet shirt, use my Chairman clyDe mug, 

I just wanted to share a few parting memories and thoughts with you.  Hope
it doesn't sound too much like memories inscribed in a high school yearbook.

=======================

I have lots of fond memories.  Just a few:  

Hanging out with Lashdeep and Creampuff and the Mid-Atlantic crew (Nick
Thompson, Burdette, Passori, Boyd, Parker, the girls).  

Touring Seattle and hanging with Jenkins, Handa, and the rest of the Sea-Tac
crew.  

Blasting round SC with Charles.  

Buying cars in a frenzy with Michael "Scallion".  

Bombing to Montreal with a phalanx of listers, like Lou Menditto, Ben Kao,
Lash, Creamy and Chuckles, and watching clyDe almost start up another war
with Canadians.  

Participating in the Flist One-Lap charity run with Alex Leventhal, Bill
Shaw and Mini-Michael.

Attending the FList gathering in Indy in 2000, with a bunch of
Midwesterners, like Dave Craig (Lindsay?) and witnessing the legendary
"hug."  

Watching Pless and AJ go at it over stickergate, again and again (Peter, god
bless ya, let go it!  AJ *may* have screwed up a decade ago, but he's turned
out to be a heckuva good guy.  :-)

Watching Dr. Ken change a flat tire on his truck in the Tx heat right before
he was going to operate on my eyes (he insisted that a Texan ought to change
his own G-D tire).  

In Corning, NY for the FCA Meet, laughing at the ongoing antics of Keegan,
socializing with Therese and working with Scopelliti.

Witnessing the flaming star that was Peter Halpern.

Laughing my ass off whenever the awesome clyDe (he's not real, we made him
up!) managed to get someone's panties in a knot.

Meeting some "locals", like Stark, Murray, Ashburne, Shaw and others - you
know who you are.

Always impressed by the lore and knowledge of Messrs. Rainbolt and Nielsen.

Todd Walke - I've always been impressed by your logic, writing, erudition
and common sense.  I hope we will meet one day.  You too, Mr. D&T Anderson.
And you fall into this category, too, "Mr. Clean" (hanging out with Lashdeep
in DC was too short).

Conforti - fight the good fight, bro.

=======================

There are those who have already passed from this list, and whom I miss and
hope they are doing well:  Al Chelini, Alex Leventhal, Ted Arneson, Dave
Quick, Doc Fung, the Millers Steve & Elizabeth, Graham Welland, Jim Dunne,
Jon Ward, Jonathan Haines, Larry Kingsland, Marci Haas, Margaret Gailey,
Marty Loughlin, Michael Charness, Mike Fleischer, Paul Bennett, Peter Sward,
Robert Ziino, John Rosevear, Tom Swift, Tom Buckley, and many others.

=======================

And who can forget some of the inane, stupid, unproductive, immature flame
wars that I, looking back, can't believe I jumped into?  Ken Ross and his "I
swear, I average 150 mph *by my GPS* in my 308 on my commute to work in NJ
every day!".  Nate Aldous.  DG Shreeves.  I even got into it a few times
with Scottie - lord, that was stupid, and glad we've both grown up.  :-)
And Brian, while we will always disagree on some elements, I wish you
ongoing success with your many automotive ventures.

That's about it.  I'm sure there are a few that I've inadvertently left out;
apologies.  And, admittedly, there are a few that I will be glad to be free
from (woo-hoo!).  I hope that those that are still friends will keep in
touch privately.  Who knows, I may be back like fellow prodigal son Lindsay.
Or not.  But not anytime soon.

In any event, I am outta here....

vty,

--Dennis

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:18:30 -0800
From: "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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As many of you know I am a pretty rabid Ferrari Fan and will never  
leave. Even though I never met you
Dennis I will miss you also. I dont own  gun, am pretty liberal and a  
rocker but I feel a kinship
with any ferrari owner that goes far beyond politics, race regional or  
religious differences! :-)

Thanks again Steve for the List!

Rob Garven

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On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Steve Cook wrote:

> I hate to see you leave too!
>
> When I started the list, I went through some serious thought about
> making it "moderated" but I really didn't want to moderate/censor
> anything. I thought it would be best if I let it live a life of its  
> own
> - let it be what people make it. I still think that.
>
> To be completely honest, I have all the FList email going to a  
> separate
> Outlook folder, and I only check it occasionally.  I consistently read
> only a few member's emails: Rick L., Ric, Rui, Dr. Ken, cLyDe (they're
> short ;), and a couple others. Others I'll read if the subject is
> interesting, and some I consistently don't read... (I won't mention
> names, but you probably don't know who you are - heheheh). The  
> subjects
> that decay into inane arguments generally don't get read by anyone  
> (see
> http://www.luclin.org/files/jamond/Retarded.jpg for more details)
>
> In the past I've gone months without reading ANYTHING - seriously. A
> couple years ago SteveJ asked me about somebody, and I said "Who's
> that?"  He laughed and said "He's been posting to the List for  
> months!"
> HAHAH... So, we all have our moments.
>
> I treat it much like I treat the neighbor down the street. He's always
> got a bunch of guys over, tossin' back a few brews and talkin' cars,
> politics, guns, and yes even cigars. It can be funny, annoying, loud,
> and entertaining, but it all depends on how busy I am - if I'm busy, I
> just don't go over there.  If I'm bored and looking to shoot-the-sh!t,
> I'll head on over for a bit, and head out when I've had my fill of  
> B.S.
> :)  That's how I read FChat too actually...
>
> Anyway, Dennis, I'll keep the light on for ya.  When you get the urge
> for some mind-numbing distraction, we'll welcome you with open arms.
> And you have to fill us in on updates of Principessa(tm)!
>
> Forza!
> -steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Liu [mailto:bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:32 PM
> To: scook [at] gear21.com
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] So long, and thanks for all the fish
>
> I can't believe I've been on the Ferrari List for so long.  Since  
> 1998,
> at
> least, so quite possibly a decade.  While I'm not one of the
> original-original folks, I've still stuck around for some time.  Until
> now.
>
> It's been on my mind for a few months, but I've finally pulled the
> trigger.
> I'm done, I'm out.  I tried to unsubscribe last week, but failed  
> because
> I've been around so long that I thought that majordomo was still the
> mail
> server for this (I've since found the unsubscribe procedure, and will
> follow
> it after this last message gets posted).
>
> While I still have many friends out here, the signal-to-noise ratio  
> has
> just
> made it way too difficult to maintain my membership.  I do love the
> convivial atmosphere of the Flist, but it's just too soul-sucking  
> wading
> through the ridiculous crap that seems to make up 97% of the posts.
>
> I'm sending this email just to thank the friends I've made out here.
> I've
> met a few dozen listers over the years, and am delighted to be able to
> call
> many of you my close and dear friends.  I am grateful to the FList and
> Steve
> Cook for enabling these friendships, as well as the invaluable Ferrari
> and
> automotive knowledge passed down through the years.  I still wear my
> One-Lap
> t-shirt, my Hallet shirt, use my Chairman clyDe mug,
>
> I just wanted to share a few parting memories and thoughts with you.
> Hope
> it doesn't sound too much like memories inscribed in a high school
> yearbook.
>
> =======================
>
> I have lots of fond memories.  Just a few:
>
> Hanging out with Lashdeep and Creampuff and the Mid-Atlantic crew  
> (Nick
> Thompson, Burdette, Passori, Boyd, Parker, the girls).
>
> Touring Seattle and hanging with Jenkins, Handa, and the rest of the
> Sea-Tac
> crew.
>
> Blasting round SC with Charles.
>
> Buying cars in a frenzy with Michael "Scallion".
>
> Bombing to Montreal with a phalanx of listers, like Lou Menditto, Ben
> Kao,
> Lash, Creamy and Chuckles, and watching clyDe almost start up another
> war
> with Canadians.
>
> Participating in the Flist One-Lap charity run with Alex Leventhal,  
> Bill
> Shaw and Mini-Michael.
>
> Attending the FList gathering in Indy in 2000, with a bunch of
> Midwesterners, like Dave Craig (Lindsay?) and witnessing the legendary
> "hug."
>
> Watching Pless and AJ go at it over stickergate, again and again  
> (Peter,
> god
> bless ya, let go it!  AJ *may* have screwed up a decade ago, but he's
> turned
> out to be a heckuva good guy.  :-)
>
> Watching Dr. Ken change a flat tire on his truck in the Tx heat right
> before
> he was going to operate on my eyes (he insisted that a Texan ought to
> change
> his own G-D tire).
>
> In Corning, NY for the FCA Meet, laughing at the ongoing antics of
> Keegan,
> socializing with Therese and working with Scopelliti.
>
> Witnessing the flaming star that was Peter Halpern.
>
> Laughing my ass off whenever the awesome clyDe (he's not real, we made
> him
> up!) managed to get someone's panties in a knot.
>
> Meeting some "locals", like Stark, Murray, Ashburne, Shaw and others -
> you
> know who you are.
>
> Always impressed by the lore and knowledge of Messrs. Rainbolt and
> Nielsen.
>
>
> Todd Walke - I've always been impressed by your logic, writing,
> erudition
> and common sense.  I hope we will meet one day.  You too, Mr. D&T
> Anderson.
> And you fall into this category, too, "Mr. Clean" (hanging out with
> Lashdeep
> in DC was too short).
>
> Conforti - fight the good fight, bro.
>
> =======================
>
> There are those who have already passed from this list, and whom I  
> miss
> and
> hope they are doing well:  Al Chelini, Alex Leventhal, Ted Arneson,  
> Dave
> Quick, Doc Fung, the Millers Steve & Elizabeth, Graham Welland, Jim
> Dunne,
> Jon Ward, Jonathan Haines, Larry Kingsland, Marci Haas, Margaret  
> Gailey,
> Marty Loughlin, Michael Charness, Mike Fleischer, Paul Bennett, Peter
> Sward,
> Robert Ziino, John Rosevear, Tom Swift, Tom Buckley, and many others.
>
> =======================
>
> And who can forget some of the inane, stupid, unproductive, immature
> flame
> wars that I, looking back, can't believe I jumped into?  Ken Ross and
> his "I
> swear, I average 150 mph *by my GPS* in my 308 on my commute to work  
> in
> NJ
> every day!".  Nate Aldous.  DG Shreeves.  I even got into it a few  
> times
> with Scottie - lord, that was stupid, and glad we've both grown  
> up.  :-)
> And Brian, while we will always disagree on some elements, I wish you
> ongoing success with your many automotive ventures.
>
> That's about it.  I'm sure there are a few that I've inadvertently  
> left
> out;
> apologies.  And, admittedly, there are a few that I will be glad to be
> free
> from (woo-hoo!).  I hope that those that are still friends will keep  
> in
> touch privately.  Who knows, I may be back like fellow prodigal son
> Lindsay.
> Or not.  But not anytime soon.
>
> In any event, I am outta here....
>
> vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:39:34 -0800 (PST)