Ferrari Mailing List: Re: All about oil????

[Peter Pless (ferrarilist]

Yeah..handbook says Agip sint 2000 10w50..but I'm not sure there was
synthetic oil in 1977 was there?? 

-----Original Message-----
From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 10:33 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] All about oil????

Hi Peter,
    Do you know what the Owners Manual calls for?  I looked at a O.M. for a
308QV (it's a scan - not sure what year it is for - you;re welcome to a copy
if you'd like) and it looks like it is saying to use Agip SINT 10W50 - I'm
guessing that's a Synthetic?.

    I suspect you'll be fine with the 5W40 - - especially since you are
using Synthetic.  Keep an eye on oil pressure and temps - especially at idle
when doing some "spirited" driving.  IMHO the pressure should not drop below

3-5psi at idle and the temp should not exceed 240-250.   If either of these 
happened on one of my cars I'd start looking for a reason and/or a way to
cool the oil a bit - and going to 15W50 would be a way to start.  No, it
doesn't cool any better by going to a higher weight but it does provide a
higher strength to keep the crank, rod and cam bearings properly lubricated.

With low viscosity oils I worry about metal to metal contact under extreme
conditions.

    But that's just me.   ;-)

Good luck -

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results
http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
800-583-8601
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] All about oil????


> So now I'm confused.
>
> Will my newly rebuilt 308 2V engine be ok with fully synthetic 5W 40?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net]
> Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 8:51 AM
> To: Peter Pless
> Cc: 'The FerrariList'
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] All about oil????
>
> Right you are.  I am 100% positive the engineers who specify the oils we
> should use - especially in new cars - would dearly love to suggest the 
> very
> low viscosity oils the Doctor believes in.  And now that the CAFE 
> standards
> have been raised once again there will be even more pressure to use
> lightweight oils.
>
> I always find it interesting to see what the human mind can rationalize 
> ;-)
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results
> http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
> 800-583-8601
> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Martin Stark
>  To: LarryT
>  Cc: 'The FerrariList'
>  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:25 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] All about oil????
>
>
>  The good doctor seems to be obsessed with heat conduction and oblivious 
> to
> film strength.
>
>  LarryT wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> ya know, it's hard to tell when yo;re being sarcastic sometimes. l;-)
>
> If you are not, let me share  my thoughts about the use of very low weight
> oils in older vehicles:
>
> I know Dr Haas is probably a great plastic surgeon, but I would not run 
> 0W20
> or 0W30 oil in a car more than 5 years old with more than 50k on it. 
> Older
> and vehicles with more than a few miles just will not be fully protected
> with such low viscosity oil, IMO.   The ability of the low viscosity oil 
> to
> carry the weight of the crank and rods is just not as good as a heavier
> weight oil.
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results
> http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
> 800-583-8601
> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Pless" <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] All about oil????
>
>
>  I think that's an awesome article! It's exactly what I've suspected all
> this
> time, and considering the source as well, I'm going to be changing the oil
> in my GT4 immediately.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pvb308 [at] comcast.net [mailto:pvb308 [at] comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, 21 March 2008 3:09 AM
> To: Peter Pless
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] All about oil????
>
> I came across an interesting article on engine oil, from the Florida
> Region
> of the Ferrari Owners Club. Since I'm not an expert on engine oils---does
> anyone have any opinions on this article???? The article can be found at:
> www.focfloridaregion.com/
> To open the article -on the left side of the page- click on "Educational
> Articles" --then click on "Introduction to Motor Oil".
>
> Thanks,
>   Jerry in Ponte Vedra Beach, FL
>
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