Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request

[rolindsay (rolindsay]

Reminds me of working the US GP a couple of years ago. We had to escort Danaka 
off of the track where she had pranced out for a photo op. The track was HOT 
with F1 practice!  Her response was the same, "Do you know who I am?". She was 
escorted from the track. 

Rick


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From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>

Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:11:01 
To:rolindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
Cc:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request


Helio -Hey - do you KNOW who I am?
No
Do you KNOW who my boss is?
No
Roger Penske
Don't know him - now looking at the passenger - Say, Aren't you Gil 
Defaren??  Wow - glad to meet you - - (shaking hands)

Yeah - THAT was a good one - only bettered by the time Johnny Carson dressed 
up like a security guard and pulled Ed McMann over for a routine check of 
his trunk and it LOADED with toilet paper, typewriters - gosh knows what 
else.

First thing Ed does was blame his chauffeur - man, he was so pissed he 
didn't even know it was Johnny his-self under that guard hat.  heh heh

DOUG


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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request


> Speaking of trying to talk your way out of a traffic ticket, did anybody 
> see Helio Castroneves offer a cop a helmet when he was stopped on 16th St. 
> outside the track? Lucky for Helio it was a set-up prank for SPEEDTV and 
> not for real. Otherwise he might be facing felony charges.
>
> Yer pal, Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bubba
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request
>
>
>
> I pulled over a Mexican tamale truck on it's way to a swap-meet early one 
> Sunday
> orning for making an illegal left turn. Let them off with a warning 
> though.
> amn, nothing better than tamales and a hot cup of coffee for breakfast!
> Book 'em Dano, yer pal Ferrari Bubba
>
> ----Original Message-----
> rom: Dan
> ubject: Re: [Ferrari] Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request
>
> Ever seen a Krispy-Kream doughnut truck pulled over? Small town or
> t?..........Ha!! I think not!!
> ---- Original Message ----- 
> om: <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> : "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>
> : "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> nt: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:00 PM
> bject: Re: [Ferrari] Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request
> Now what makes you think that would gather attention at 80MPH??  LOL!
> Maybe the Wiener Mobile...
> Jim
> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:41:51
> To:JIM <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Tips on Quick Trips[NFC] - by request
>
> Thanks for the update, Hans. Good stuff!
> I once triggered my own V1 LIDAR detector in DFW in the 328. When the
> intense sun bounced off the shiny red hood at just the right angle it
> awoke the alarm. Scared myself bad.
> I have sent several posts with tiny pictures that are being culled
> including a great shot of the mighty Hen-A-Tron.
> I'll try again here:
> With all the posting about radar and LIDAR, it should be pointed out
> that cops don't try and clock you unless and until you get their
> attention. Most radar these days is instant-on. All else being equal
> you are better off driving an innocuous-looking vehicle. At all costs
> avoid the Hen-A-Tron!!!! Ferraris aren't  much better.
>
>
> The Hen-A-Tron seen in recent Houston Art Car Parade
>
> On May 19, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Hans E. Hansen wrote:
>> Uncle Ken:
>
> Have to slightly disagree on a couple of points.
>
> Re: Corvettes.  The Corvette factory guys have for a few decades been
> doing radar stealth research.  They found that if they mounted a large
> plate to the front of the car (like a snowplow), it reflected the
> radar upward.
> As such, Corvette front plates slope upward!  Also, the rubber (not
> the fiberglass)
> bumper cover tends to absorb microwaves.  I've had cops verify that
> Corvettes are hard to pick up on radar.
>
> Re: LIDAR  The V1 is more effective than you might realize.  The
> Lidar unit
> is not too unlike aiming a pistol.  Now imagine trying to aim a
> pistol at
> a small target - license plate or headlight - a few hundred yards
> away.
> To make matters worse, the target is moving.  If you are at all like
> me,
> you are not 100% steady.  Maybe you are fairly steady, but those
> pistol sights undoubtedly move around at least a little.  So....
> It is
> highly unlikely that the cop can pull up the Lidar unit, pull the
> trigger
> and catch you.  What happens is that they essentially "paint" the
> front of the car until they get a valid reflection.  Odds are actually
> quite good that your V1 goes off before they get you.  I've had
> perhaps
> a dozen Lidar close calls where I was well into the range where they
> wouldn't have simply let me pass.  I got 3 Lidar V1 warnings in one
> day, in each case going over 80mph in a 55 zone.  (It was a
> saturation patrol on a holiday weekend.)  Each case resulted
> in a dirty look from the cop, as I managed to slow down before
> they locked into me.
>
> Hans.
>
> On 5/19/08, ken rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> On May 18, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Mike wrote:
>>
>>> I think what Ken is referring to is the RCS (radar cross section),
>>> headlights facing forward on a car look like a billboard to most
>>> radar
>>> systems and reflect laser back pretty well also, they have chrome
>>> parabolic
>>> reflectors in the headlight assemblies any radar ahead of you will
>>> bounce
>>> straight ahead and slightly to the left (same as your
>>> headlights)...  And
>>> provide an excellent return signal.
>>
>> Thx Ken,
>>    When you say, "Tape the Headlights" - does that mean to leave
>> slits open
>> for light to escape?  Or ?  Does having the headlights lit make the
>> radar
>> more effective?
>>
>> From: "LarryT"
>>
>> You could anything you wanted too the the headlights
>> The radar could care less
>>
>> Clyde
>>
>>
>> The purpose of taping the headlights is to block LIDAR, not radar.
>> The two primary targets for the infrared laser gun operator are
>> reflective license plates and headlight reflectors. I just put some
>> black tape over the lights as if you were on a track. Of course if
>> you have a Ferrari with retractable headlights this solves the
>> problem! Also lose the front plate if you run one, a dull black stone
>> bra is a nice absorbent touch as well.
>>
>> LIDAR is stationary, they have to aim it like a rifle. LIDAR will be
>> on the overpass or beside the road. With a white or red car that is
>> clean they can get a return signal out around 1200 feet. If your
>> detector goes off it's too late, you are are already toast. With a
>> black car with no front plate and tape on the lights you have a
>> chance of getting close enough to spot the trap before they get a
>> usable return signal from your car.
>>
>> If the guy in the next lane suddenly hits his brakes you may have
>> time to slow before they can track you as well. Of course you have to
>> take the tape off the lites at night. I don't like to run fast at
>> night because you cannot see what is out there plus there are too
>> many critters on the road. And as the evening wears on you get the
>> drunks.
>>
>> "Why have you got your headlights taped son?"
>>
>> "To protect against stones ossifer, so they don't break. I take the
>> tape off at night".
>>
>>
>> As far as radar it will pick up the big metal V8 block in a Corvette.
>> One way to "hide" from radar - if you are near a large object like an
>> 18 wheeler the radar will pick up the stronger doppler signal to
>> record speed. This is true even if you are a short distance in front
>> of the truck.
>>
>> Look at a picture of a stealth fighter  - all sharp angles. Now look
>> at a picture of a 308. Even the windshield has a very sharp angle -
>> the more angular nosed Ferraris  are pretty good at bouncing radar
>> away without a strong return signal. Just keep your headlights down!
>> And no front plate!
>>
>> In the drawing below the Ferrari is pretty much immune to oncoming
>> radar (blue) as it "hides"in the R hand lane behind a speeding SUV.
>> You can clock many rapid miles like this by just tucking in a bit
>> behind and to the right of local hotfoots. If the radar operator is
>> off to your R behind an obstruction the signal will still strike the
>> SUV first.
>>
>> Recently a lot of the divided Interstate here has been getting
>> fencing down the median to prevent head-on crossover collisions. This
>> also prevents oncoming radar units from driving across the median.
>> Some of the newer high-tech radar is more selective about picking out
>> individual cars in a group, but you can't change physics. A shotgun
>> with a choke is still a shotgun not a pistol.
>>
>>
>>                                                               ï
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