Re: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:29:37 -0800 (PST)
Hey Michael -  Hope you're having a good week -

You're right - it doesn't have anything to do with the way Ferrari's are designed - and I won't say anymore about it whether you respond to this or not. -

well, if you don't care - you obviously have enough money to not have to worry about it. - *will* it bother you at some point? Because you may see these kinds of fees rise in the next few years -
BTW, it could be turned into a yearly fee with the stroke of a pen -

May as well send me $10000 or $20000 - I deserve it as much as the govt.
.
Well- at least you got a good laugh from my posts  ;-)

Take care -
Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits &
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?


When you're ready to compare the GAINS attained by that top 5% in the past several years in relation to their tax burden, you would note that the top 5% still increased their profits/wealth overall - they have not lost money because of Uncle Sam. Nor will they lose money with a 0.6% increase - gains made by that top 5% far surpass their US tax burden, as many in this tax bracket have taken their business ventures global. Ask Kirk Kerkorian or Warren Buffet if they're worried about the IRS....these folks make/lose huge sums money through other activities completely unrelated to their tax bill.

Are you suggesting we suspend Democracy in order to protect the top 5% financial earners? Certainly 'the Rich' are capable of making their case to politicians and the voting electorate regarding their plight in today's economic situation. Those folks are smarter than your and I on so many levels when it comes to finances, many of them voted in-support of the upcoming administration. I'm sure they had their reasons - reasons you may not be privy to.

BTW, what does any of this have anything to do with Ferrari designing by Windtunnel instead of imagination??? Just curious....



--- On Wed, 11/12/08, jashburne [at] aol.com <jashburne [at] aol.com> wrote:

From: jashburne [at] aol.com <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:35 AM

This is the problem with a "soak the rich" philosophy.  Already we
have accepted a very progressive tax structure in which the top 5 percent of
earners pay half or more of total tax revenues and the bottom 45 pct pay no
income taxes at all.

When the president elect says that increasing the top tax rate from 36 pct to
39.6 pct is only "chump change" to a million dollar earner when it is
really a tax increase of $36,000 a year, this country is in big trouble.

This is dangerous because politicians don't care about losing 5 pct of the
vote when they can promise tax cuts or checks to the other 95 pct.

There is a limit to how far the government can force fewer and fewer people to carry more and more of the tax burden and we may be approaching it. If we are
careful the most productive sectors will leave and this economy will spiral
downward.

Rant off

John
------Original Message------
From: Matt Boyd
Sender:
To: jashburne [at] aol.com
Cc: The FerrariList
Sent: Nov 12, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks?

Right!  They're rich enough, so we should just extract the $$ from
them.  If they can afford a gold stripe, they certainly should pay
some money to the government!

:-?

-matt
'85 euro 308....with no gas guzzler fine...

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Michael James
<cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
LOL, you're funny Larry.

NEVER have I heard someone wanting to buy a new Ferrari walk into a
dealership and go:  "Damn, I could 'just' afford a new 430, but I
can't afford the car with that Gas Guzzler tax added on!  My dreams are
over, I'm going to have to go buy a Buick now.....Damn those Washington
Socialists, boo-hoo.....sniff..."

Please - buyers are spending several thousand$$$ extra to have those gold
stripes painted on their Scuderia's hood to match the color of the rims and
have the seat-stitching threads contrast the seat leather. Do you think any of
these 'extras' make the car go faster?  These folks don't care about
the money, good for them.  Care to guess that the California won't sell
well, even in this economy?
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