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From: philville dejazzd.com (philville dejazzd.com)
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| Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:15:02 -0800 (PST) | |
If it can be done ROL will be the first....I can see it now a paddle shifter op'd by strings and wire....I just wish I had that tech. when I built my first soap box scooter car....and, reverse wrapped the steering...next time I will test drive on the flat. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 11:17 am Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday) To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> Cc: Ferrari list <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Most of your modern Automotive advances have been Electronic, > not entirely mechanical - which, I predict, will all have a very- > poor shelf-life. Imagine trying to repair and source-parts for > Ferrari's F1 paddleshift transmissions two decades from now - > forget it. Most electronic-assist machines will be inoperable > in 20-30 years simply because automotive electronics do not age > well, are disposable/proprietary in the eyes of OEM suppliers, > and difficult if not outright impossible for shade-tree > mechanics to reverse-engineer without a Masters in Computer > Engineering. Coupled with the dwindling talent pool if REAL > automotive mechanics, and most of the newer cars will be forever > parked when their ECUs and other electronic engine-management > doo-dads fail. > > M > > --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man > rambling on Tuesday) > To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com> > Cc: "Ferrari list" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 9:23 AM > > Great points Phil. Unless its been put out to pasture, in > a junk yard or worse, > cars from the '40s - '70s are still around. Fifty years > from now, how > many cars from the 2000-2010 era will still be around. > Today's cars seem to > be more throw-away than ever before. I see the same thing > with houses. Houses > built at the turn of the (last) century are still structurally > sound. Will he > houses built today be around in 100 years? I think > not. Houses from the > '70s, using 'modern construction techniques' are falling > apart. I > guess the point is; the life expectancy of about everything > built today is much > shorter than it was is days past. What does that say for > our children's > world if for some unforeseen reason, modern construction (of > anything) declines? > > Whoa! Must be Thursday... > > rick > > --- On Wed, 12/3/08, philville dejazzd.com > <philville [at] dejazzd.com> wrote: > > > From: philville dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com> > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling > on Tuesday) > > To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > > Cc: "Ferrari list" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > > Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 8:16 AM > > Fellow old mans club member............memories are > > incredible, and, > > at the rate we are going, they may be all > that we have > > left. > > > > Last time I checked there were at least 15 > domestic auto > > manuf. that > > have gone out of bus. since WW II........... > > > > Will we be adding a couple more in the near > > future....... > > > > We used to say tings like "man my old mans Hudson > > had a back seat so > > wide that I could" you fill in the blank, > > ........what will our grand > > kids be saying 25 years from now some thing > like " > > I keep hearing > > about how great my grandads Impala SS was, > but I've > > never seen one." > > > > Oh well. > > > > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: red5hilser [at] aol.com > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 7:39 pm > > Subject: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven > (A.K.A. Old > > man rambling on > > Tuesday) > > To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com> > > Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com > > > OK, I'll have to admit that the most fun and > > best car that I've > > > ever owned and driven was my '53 Jaguar XK120MC > > that I bought in > > > late 1957, just?two years out of high > school for > > $1995.00. In > > > American racing colours, white with blue racing > > stripes, with > > > grey blue leather bucket seats. Oh, yea, > it had the > > Rudge knock- > > > off wheels too. Sharp! > > > > > > I'd seen Kirk Douglas in 'The Racers' a > > few months earlier, and > > > that film gave me the bug. I was working > at a paper > > in Newport > > > Beach, making $2.25 an hour and saving for > college.> I'm not > > > saying that things were cheap back then, > But I had > > a 1 bedroom > > > apt. on 45th St, a block from the ocean > that cost > > me $70 a month. > > > > > > Things were way different back then and I > used to > > do my weekly > > > grocery shopping at Richards Lido Market > for less > > than $20 a > > > week. Another thing that was different was that > > occasionally I'd > > > be in the checkout line with John Wayne, > just like > > some ordinary > > > Joe Blow! He lived a few blocks away on > Lido Isle. > > Hell, the > > > ocean was so close that I'd go surf fishing > > before work! > > > > > > The Duke (Marion Morrison from Glendale in real > > life) played > > > football with my uncle, Jesse T. Hill at > USC back > > in the late > > > 1920's before he became a star in Hollywood, > > along with Ward > > > Bond. Interesting story about the Duke at USC, > > seems like one > > > year the Trojans were National Champions, > but the > > coach, Gloomy > > > Gus Henderson, I think, wouldn't let the team > > play in the Rose > > > Bowl. Seems like the Duke and some of the > rest of > > the team were > > > arrested at?Clara Bow's estate during some orgy > > one night. As > > > they say in 2008, MY BAD! > > > > > > Uncle Jesse later played MLB for both the > old NY > > Yankees and > > > Washington Senators before becoming the head > > Football Coach and > > > AD at USC. He hired John McKay as head football > > coach in one of > > > his wiser moves.. > > > > > > Anyway, in 1958, any foreign car, even in > L.A.?was> as scarce as > > > pork chops at a Jewish wedding. I counted 14 > > foreign cars on a > > > Sunday trip from Newport Beach to > Pasedena, where > > my grandmother > > > lived. And that included VWs, All > Japanese, French, > > English and > > > Italian too. > > > > > > The L.A.-Hollywood, Orange County Sports > Car racing > > community > > > was so small at that time, that there was > a little > > Racing Bar > > > called The Checkered Flag, out in the > Valley that > > showed amateur > > > racing films every Tuesday night. All the local > > racers showed up > > > and it wouldn't be unusual to see Dennis > > Hooper, Lance > > > Reventlow, Ronnie Burns (George & Gracie's > > son), George Follmer, > > > Bruce Kessler, Richie Ginther?and the rest > of them > > at a nearby > > > table. drinking beer and enjoying the 16mm > films.> > > > > Ach, the memories, yer pal Bubba > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pokiebaron > > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [Mgs] Best car I've > > driven (A.K.A. Old > > > man rambling on Tuesday > > > > > > > > > > > > Most fun car I ever drove was an English spec > > '79 911 > > > Targa. No car I've > > > drive has rewarded me so quickly for doing > > something right, or > > > punished me > > > equally as fast for doing something wrong. > lol. > > Having the > > > wheel on the > > > other side and the pedals more offset than > in a > > left hand drive > > > car just > > > added to the fun, and challenge. I > liked it so > > much, I'm > > > buying it. > > > > > > Worst, was a tie between a friends Range > Rover, or > > Honda > > > Civic. Range Rover > > > always felt like the body was going in one > > direction, and > > > everything under > > > it, in another. The Civic, is the > only car > > I've ever > > > scared myself in! > > > > > > Current cars, > > > > > > '88 300E > > > '80 911SC > > > '94 Sunbird... I have to store my tools > > somewhere. hee hee > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > 2008/12/2 Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > > > > > > > Great list Murry. Instead of > kicking Miatas > > (which only > > > happened on the MG > > > > list, BTW ;-) this whole thread started with > > the most-fun-to- > > > drive car > > > > comment. For me, it was an '89 BMW > 325iS.> The > > > worst of them all was a > > > > Phymouth Arrow. Bought it new, > broke a timing > > belt 3- > > > weeks after taking > > > > delivery. The car sat at the > dealer for 3 > > months waiting > > > for parts. Never > > > > ran worth a flip after the dealer's > > repair. Kept it only > > > a year. Sadly, I > > > > was a green kid and didn't know my rights > > with regard to > > > defective products. > > > > I ate the loss. > > > > > > > > So there you have it. From a guy > with two > > Ferraris in > > > the garage, the best > > > > car I've driven was a BMW and the worst a > > Plymouth (Mitsubishi). > > > > > > > > rick > > > > PS: I really loved my Series II XJ6 too. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Murray Arundell > > <arundell [at] ghs.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Murray Arundell > > <arundell [at] ghs.com.au> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Best car I've > > driven (A.K.A. Old man > > > rambling on > > > > Tuesday > > > > > To: "Steve" > > <temporarilyoffline [at] gmail.com> > > > > > Cc: "Rick Lindsay" > > <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>, "MGS" > > > <mgs [at] autox.team.net>,> "IPOG" > > <ponton [at] yahoogroups.com>, > > > "ferrari" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:03 PM > > > > > Some standout non MG cars in my past, in > > no particular > > > > > order:- > > > > > > > > > > Fiat 125s c/w close ratio 5-speed, twin > > > cam motor, Abrath > > > > > Wheels. My > > > > > first real car. Loved it, > thrashed it > > and eventually > > > > > wrecked it. > > > > > Should really buy another while I still > > can. > > > > > VW Gold GLi. Lovely sweet cat, > brilliant> dynamics but I > > > > > had warranty > > > > > issues with dealer which soured the > > owning experience. > > > > > Alfa 33Ti. Brilliant but flawed > car. > > When it all > > > worked> > properly and > > > > > you were blasting through that mountain > > pass life was > > > > > bliss. However > > > > > these periods were interspersed with > > reliability and build > > > > > quality > > > > > problems. The day it was sold > was a > > bitter sweet day. > > > > > Glad it was > > > > > out of my life, but there was that > > lingering feeling that I > > > > > would miss > > > > > it and I did. > > > > > Jaguar Sovereign Double Six Saloon. > > Bought new and at the > > > > > time "the > > > > > best Saloon in the World". > > > > > Holden Commodore SLE 5.0. (A GM product) > > Another one bought > > > > > new. > > > > > Fitted with a 308ci V8 and four speed > > gearbox. In 78 these > > > > > were the > > > > > bees knees in Australia. Went > like the > > clappers, actually > > > > > went around > > > > > corners too. Had air-con and all the > > power bits and > > > > > pieces. Flogged > > > > > it unmercifully and nothing ever > broke. > > It was a very > > > > > satisfying > > > > > drive. Sadly subsequent > Commodores never > > quite cut it like > > > > > this one > > > > > did. > > > > > 1963 Holden Premier. 179 ci six > > cylinder. My > > > first car, I > > > > > loved it > > > > > then, would love one now. > > > > > 1977 VW Kombi Camper. Slow, evil > > handling and you could > > > > > not kill it a > > > > > stick. Cant pass one on the road today > > without wishing I > > > > > still had > > > > > it..... > > > > > > > > > > Murray Arundell > > > > > Brisbane Australia > > > > > > > > > > 49 MG-TC > > > > > 65 MGB-V8 (Historic Racer) > > > > > 98 MG-F v.v.c > > > > > 04 BMW RT1200 (only 2 wheels) > > > > > 06 Peugeot 407 sv (Whife's Wheels) > > > > > 08 Mercedes ML480 > > > > > > > > > > On 03/12/2008, at 12:07 AM, Steve wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a '91 E30 AWD > > model... I'll trade > > > > > ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Rick > > Lindsay > > > > > <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hello Friends, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> As I drove in to work t > > > oday in my '08 > > > > > Mercedes C300, I finished a > > > > > >> test. > > > > > >> Over the past couple of days I > > have driven every > > > > > car that I > > > > > >> presently own. > > > > > >> There are six of them in the > > scuderia. Okay, > > > > > okay, the ponton isn't > > > > > >> "drivable" but I did > > start it and warm > > > > > it up last Sunday. Anyway, > > > > > >> this test > > > > > >> was the continuation of the > > 308GTB vs Mondial QV > > > > > comparison that I > > > > > >> did over > > > > > >> the weekend. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> As STYX's "Too Much > > Time on my > > > > > Hands" ended on the C300's > > sounds > > > > > >> system I > > > > > >> realized that I have now owned > > over sixty cars in > > > > > my tender 57 years, > > > > > >> ranging from a 1930 Chevrolet > > Deluxe to a 2008 > > > > > Mercedes C300! That > > > > > >> thought > > > > > >> led be to consider which of the > > lot is my all-time > > > > > favorite to drive. > > > > > >> Here's the story and what I > > concluded. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The most exciting car-related > > moment I recall was > > > > > the day I picked > > > > > >> up my > > > > > >> 308GTB. As I left Phil > > Tegtmeyer's quiet, > > > > > supportive company I > > > > > >> thought to > > > > > >> myself, "I'm driving > > Ferrari. Oh my God, > > > > > I'm driving MY > > > > > >> Ferrari!!!" I > > > > > >> guess the second most exciting > > moment was when I > > > > > got my first > > > > > >> sports car at > > > > > >> the age of eighteen. It was a > > Fiat 850 Spyder. > > > > > Most beautiful car > > > > > >> I had > > > > > >> ever seen! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Flash forward to today and I > > ask; Of all the cars > > > > > I have owned, > > > > > >> which one > > > > > >> was the overall most enjoyable > > to drive? The > > > > > answer surprised even > > > > > >> me. It > > > > > >> was my little bright red '89 > > BMW 325iS > > > > > coupe'. The E30 cars feel > > > > > >> like > > > > > >> go-karts, light as a feather and > > the 2.5 litre > > > > > "little six" is a > > > > > >> great > > > > > >> engine. Hook that to a 5-speed > > manual gearbox and > > > > > you get my all- > > > > > >> time > > > > > >> favorite. Yea, I was surprised > > too. Wish I still > > > > > owned it. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Happy Tuesday, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> rick > > > > > >> 2 x Ferrari > > > > > >> 2 x Mercedes > > > > > >> 1 x BMW > > > > > >> 1 x Land Rover > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You are subscribed as > > temporarilyoffline [at] gmail.com > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mgs [at] autox.team.net > > > > > >> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > > > > >> > > > > > >> http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Support Team.Net > > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are subscribed as > > arundell [at] ghs.com.au > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mgs [at] autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription > > options, please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/pokiebaron%40gmai > l.com> > > > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > > > and F1 Headlines > > > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription > options,> please visit: > > > > > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol. > com > > > > > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > > and F1 Headlines > > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription > options,> please visit: > > > > > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz > zd.com > > > > > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > > and F1 Headlines > > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier > > 39 Churchill Drive > > Elverson Pa 19520 > > 610.525.8949 > > And, go to: ... www.PhilvilleUSA.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > > visit: > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo .com> > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > > and F1 Headlines > > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/cavallino_rapante %40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlines > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/philville%40dejaz zd.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlines > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier 39 Churchill Drive Elverson Pa 19520 610.525.8949 And, go to: ... www.PhilvilleUSA.com
- Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday), (continued)
- Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday) Rick Lindsay, December 3 2008
- Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday) Hans E. Hansen, December 3 2008
- Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday) Rick Lindsay, December 3 2008
- Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday) E M, December 3 2008
- Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on Tuesday) philville dejazzd.com, December 3 2008
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