Re: Excited about government
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:39:43 -0800 (PST)
Welllll.. obama *said* he'd change things. seems like a strange mix of cabinet selections and "advisors" -

If you have found that elusive way to move money to a safe haven - without the IRS knowing - now's the time!
;-)
Unfortunately my portfolio dropped by 40% so there's not enough to move.

Sincerely,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Excited about government


Enjoy driving your F car as much as possible. The Messiah hired another
Socialist Envirok00k that will no doubt smack old car owners with new
polllution taxes, or impose some other kind of punitive damages on owners
for destroying the Earth.

January 12, 2009
Obama climate czar has socialist ties
Stephen Dinan
Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as
global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's
Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global
governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address
climate change.

By Thursday, Mrs. Browner's name and biography had been removed from
Socialist International's Web page, though a photo of her speaking June 30
to the group's congress in Greece was still available.

Socialist International, an umbrella group for many of the world's social
democratic political parties such as Britain's Labor Party, says it supports
socialism and is harshly critical of U.S. policies.

The group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, the organization's
action arm on climate change, says the developed world must reduce
consumption and commit to binding and punitive limits on greenhouse gas
emissions.

Mr. Obama, who has said action on climate change would be a priority in his
administration, tapped Mrs. Browner last month to fill a new position as
White House coordinator of climate and energy policies. The appointment does
not need Senate confirmation.

Mr. Obama's transition team said Mrs. Browner's membership in the
organization is not a problem and that it brings experience in U.S.
policymaking to her new role.

"The Commission for a Sustainable World Society includes world leaders from
a variety of political parties, including British Prime Minister Gordon
Brown, who succeeded Tony Blair, in serving as vice president of the
convening organization," Obama transition spokesman Nick Shapiro said.

"Carol Browner was chosen to help the president-elect coordinate energy and
climate policy because she understands that our efforts to create jobs,
achieve energy security and combat climate change demand integration among
different agencies; cooperation between federal, state and local
governments; and partnership with the private sector," Mr. Shapiro said in
an e-mail.

Mrs. Browner ran the Environmental Protection Agency under President
Clinton. Until she was tapped for the Obama administration, she was on the
board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of
Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice
President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection.

Her name has been removed from the Gore organization's Web site list of
directors, and the Audubon Society issued a press release about her
departure from that organization.

Republicans said Mrs. Browner's work with Socialist International raises
questions.

"Does she agree with the group's positions on global governance - that the
United States should abdicate its international leadership to international
organizations? Does she support its position that the international
community should be the ultimate arbiter of climate change policy?" said
Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for House Minority Leader John A. Boehner,
Ohio Republican.

"These are questions that merit answers - especially when you consider this
group's deep skepticism about America's ability to be a force for positive
change in the world," she said.

An aide on the Obama team said its information shows that Mrs. Browner
resigned from the organization in June 2008. The aide, who asked not to be
named because he was discussing internal matters, said the transition team
was aware she had been a member of the group when she was vetted.

The Socialist International Web site didn't have a copy of her June 30
speech, but the agenda for the meeting had her scheduled to speak as part of
a panel on "How do we strengthen the multilateral architecture for a
sustainable future?"

Other panel participants were Sergey Mironov, speaker of the Russian
legislature's upper chamber and a close ally of Prime Minister Vladimir
Putin; Zhang Zhijun, vice minister of the International Department of the
Chinese Communist Party's Central Committee; and Jesus Caldera, a former
Minister of Employment and Social Affairs of the Spanish Socialist Workers'
Party.

A woman answering the phone at Socialist International's headquarters in
London said all officers were traveling.

Nobody from the organization returned a message left Friday.

Socialist International bills itself as the world body of democratic
socialist movements. It includes members ranging from Israel's Labor Party
and France's Socialist Party to Angola's MPLA, which won the 1970s Angolan
civil war with the aid of Soviet arms and Cuban troops.

The organization distinguishes itself from violent or revolutionary
communist parties. However, some such groups, including the Chinese
Communist Party, have been invited to its events as guest organizations.

The Democratic Socialists of America, not the Democratic Party, is listed as
the group's U.S. representative. But Mrs. Browner was listed as an
individual member of Socialist International, but not a member of the DSA.

While agreeing with Mr. Obama on the need for action to address climate
change, the organization wants more draconian policies than the
president-elect's preferred solution.

During the presidential campaign, Mr. Obama called for a cap-and-trade
system to control carbon emissions. He argued that such a system is
efficient and lets the free market determine where it's easiest to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions.

Socialist International says such "flexible mechanisms" do not clamp down
hard enough on polluters.

The organization often takes a decidedly critical view of the U.S.

At this summer's meeting, the group issued a statement on economics that
blasted the "neo-liberal market ideology and the unilateralist,
U.S.-dominated approach in the global economic system," and attacked the
U.S. for dominating international financial institutions.

At its meeting earlier in 2008 in Santiago, Chile, Socialist International
endorsed "global governance" as the solution to the world's problems of
peace and climate change.

At a July meeting in St. Petersburg, the commission said developed countries
"should think of decreasing current consumption levels" - which would mean
shrinking their economies - in order to help the environment.

Socialist International regularly blasts the construction of fencing along
the U.S.-Mexico border. The fence was approved by both houses of Congress,
including with Mr. Obama's vote in the Senate.

Socialist International was congratulatory when Mr. Obama won the election, issuing a statement noting that "the sky may seem a bit brighter today" but
warning still that "there are enormous global challenges that must be
addressed effectively and without delay."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/print/



----- Original Message ----- From: <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
To: "Rich" <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:15 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] Excited about government


Believe it or not, I just heard the CNN announcer say, "Americans are
becoming excited about their government." I almost dropped my coffee mug! I then realized that they must be using the word "excited" as one would do
when saying, "The crook with the gun seemed to be excited." -synonymous
with panicked...

Rick :-P
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