Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Govt Response to the Recession OT NFC

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Hi Ken -

   The report by Caruba was interesting - of course, he's saying the same 

things this and other lists have been saying for a while.    Things like the 

government is responsible for the mess we're in - and those same people are 

doing things that will continue to make the mess escalate.  I also liked his 

comment about the obama admin looking to FDRs failed responses to the 

depression to get us out of this mess.   It seems the democrats 

determination to keep FDR on a pedestal will never cease - they keep 

thinking his New Deal was a success when it was WW2 that "saved" us.  Now we 

have the new deal of the FDR social security Ponzi scheme slowly strangling 

the economy.

If only our elected officials would listen to the outpouring of public 

dissent - of course, they don't feel that's their job.  They prefer to open 

their pockets widely and shovel the $$s in.

   It should be quickly seen that the planned tax and spend method of 

economic recovery will fail flat on its face.  Hopefully.

   Finally, Mr Caruba's final sentence summed things well <<the odds that 

the White House and Congress will find a sensible, measured, and responsible 

way to cure the current financial crisis, the smart money is on zero.>>

Unfortunately.
Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
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----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Ken Rentiers" <rentiers [at] mac.com>

To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 wheels

Taxes will never go down. Our country is broke, but expensive new
measures will continue to be introduced, the sole purpose of which is
to ensure the authors retain political office. If you doubt me please
review the pork sandwich passed yesterday by the weasels on both sides
of the Senate aisle. Further elucidation here:

http://www.theabsurdreport.com/2009/put-your-bet-on-stupidity-by-alan-caruba/

Round, like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel.
Never ending or beginning,
On an ever spinning wheel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnaval balloon
Like a carousell that's turning
Running rings around the moon

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes on it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

That's all I know about wheels! k

On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:22 PM, jashburne [at] aol.com wrote:

Around here in CT they just adjust the mill rate to stay revenue
neutral if values go down.

We get appraised every 5 years and this time they want to see how
many protest the new valuations before they set the new mill rate.

My property taxes have gone up for 20 straight years.

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:16:32
To: <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 wheels

Well, they DO go down if they're based on %-value of your home, and
your home value plummets (cough - 'housing bubble' - cough).  The re-
assessment adjusters are gonna be busy this winter....here in
Taxachussets, home values have dropped AND here in Worcester the
Property tax has actually dipped a few pennies.

On the wheel note, BBS had a nice gold mesh-spoke wheel available
(would need refinishing, but a full set turns up on ebay fairly
often for not-much $$$), and Nick's Forza also has a set available
for the TRX-shod cars....not a fan of the Nick's Forza design, but
it does fit and offers a 'lip' if you like that in a wheel (which I
do).  I just don't care for the spoke design.  I believe Nick's
Forza does NOT need a wheel spacer, whereas SuperPerformance's
wheels do (but are included with-purchase).

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, jashburne [at] aol.com <jashburne [at] aol.com> wrote:

From: jashburne [at] aol.com <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 wheels
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 1:59 PM

That's always the key question isn't it?  Two things about property
taxes:  they never go down and they never go away.

What would the property tax as a percent of market value on a
home?  If
it's lower than your federal tax sheltered state income tax plus
your sales
and property tax in your old state, you come out ahead.

Sorry not trying hijack.

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:52:45
To: <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 wheels

Having attempted such a similar thing myself, one finds out that NH
may not
have sales taxes, they have a KILLER property tax.  One that's
higher than
MA's.  As a result, some of my friends are reverse-migrating to MA
just to
get away from NH taxes.

Regarding wheels, some of my local 308 cohorts have purchased the
SuperPerformance repro-rims for the 308 and love them in price and
looks, which
allow for 16" tire selection without the Four-Digit $$$ outlay for
OEM 308
QV/328 rims.  Oh, and the SuperPerformance rim purchase also
includes free OEM
Wheel Center Caps.....normally a $150 extra cost.

M

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, jashburne [at] aol.com <jashburne [at] aol.com> wrote:

From: jashburne [at] aol.com <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 wheels
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 11:59 AM

Same thing has happened in New Hampshire with all the people moving
up from
Mass. To lower their taxes.  They get there and start clamoring for
all of the
programs and taxes they wanted to get away from.

John
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Hans E. Hansen" <FList [at] hanshansen.org>

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:51:50
To: <jashburne [at] aol.com>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 wheels

The GPS thing is something that Gov. Taxngougeski wants.  I doubt
it will pass, but you never know.

This used to be an ultra conservative state, but ever since the
Kalifornicators
have been moving here, it's getting more like SanFran every day.

Hans.

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com>
wrote:

Hans are they gonna make you retrofit a GPS to your Ferrari up
there in

the

People's Democratic Republic of Oregon, so they can taxurassoff?

Oregon -

you're not allowed to pump gas and now you're not allowed to pass

it either!

Beware: fart-meters are coming!

Ditto on Avoiding metric wheels.

k

On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:00 PM, Hans E. Hansen wrote:

Ditto Robert.

The TRX metric 390 are VERY expensive, and not worth it considering
the less expensive - and superior - alternatives available.

There are some decent alum 16" repros available.

Hans.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:45 PM, robert_h_bowser [at] juno.com
<robert_h_bowser [at] juno.com> wrote:

Original wheels are 14" five spoke silver with raised Ferrari

logo.  You

probably have a set of aftermarket wheels.  I sold my set of

original wheels

a while ago on eBay.  You may find some there.

I wouldn't get the 390's, simply due to the tire

selection.  The tires on

those wheels are probably 20 years old.  Check the date code, if

they have

one.

Bob
'78 308GTS
'01 Corvette Z06

-- Wesp11 [at] aol.com wrote:
I have a black 78 308gtb  the wheels are grey black? I am new to

the

marque...aren't all the wheels silver? would early 308  wheels

have the

raised
Ferrari logo on them? I located a  set of metric 390 wheels  that

are

nice with
nice tires and think i may want to swap any thoughts  thanks

hugh
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Re: Govt Response to the Recession OT NFC	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:38:40 -0800 (PST)