Re: More Stereo Installation & Wiring Expertise Needed | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Charles Perry (charles![]() |
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Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:24:04 -0700 (PDT) |
Robert - I can't see in your F-List or F-Chat posts that you replaced the speaker wiring at any time. While I don't think that the speaker wiring would be bad, there were several wiring schemes on older cars that could cause the problems you are speaking of. I have never worked on a GT4 so I don't know if they apply. Some older cars used a common negative for each pair of speakers, meaning that they each had their own positive and then they shared a negative back to the head unit. While you may see two separate negatives at the head unit, there's no guarantee that they are independent all the way back to the speakers. In some really old cars, the car chassis was the negative for the speaker wires. This worked fine in older head units where there was a single sided power amplifier in the head unit. However, newer units like your Kenwood have two amplifiers for each speaker. They are wired out of phase and operate in a push-pull configuration to send more power to the speaker than you could otherwise get from just 12-volts with no switching power supply. These amps are intolerant of common ground or chassis ground configurations because you are essentially shorting two amplifiers to each other or to ground under those conditions. As to why it only happens with the car running, I have two guesses. One is that one of the power leads you tapped into is hot under some circumstances and ground (rather than open) under others. This can only be verified with a decent multimeter. The other is that when you start the car, you move from battery voltage (around 12.5 in a healthy battery) to alternator voltage (around 14.4v in a healthy alternator). This pumps up the power output to the speakers by as much as 15% and may be enough to put the amp into Protect if you have a bad situation that is on the border of the protect trigger with the car off. I would get your multimeter and set it on ohms first. Check each speaker line (between pos & neg) and you should get roughly 4 ohms (+/- 20% would be normal depending on brand of speaker). Next, take the meter and check every individual speaker wire lead (positive or negative) against the leads of all other speakers (pos & neg) one pair at a time. Under no circumstances should you read anything but open circuit (infinite resistance) between legs that aren't going to the same speaker. If you do, that's a problem. Let me know which leads show resistance to which other legs and we'll go from there. Next, check every speaker wire leg (pos & neg) against the car chassis. You shouldn't read anything but open circuit anywhere. If you do, that's a problem. -- charles _______________________________________________ Charles G Perry IV Vice-President, Engineering Carolina Sound Communications - MuzaK 7630 Southrail Road, BLDG B N. Charleston, SC 29420 (843) 571-4488 www.carolina-sound.com _______________________________________________
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