Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Maintenance

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

I have a 365 Clyde, not a hair dresser's 355...

For my car, 90C water, 85C oil is typical.  If the water makes it to
95C, its wisps of smoke time coming out the hood, not a good place to
be, its where all of the old rubber start to vent.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, clyde
romero<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Good catch with the clutch thing sometimes they start to warp and get out of
> alignment and that starts the ball rolling.
>
> As for the 355, I hear you, the 355 is a good car but the horsepower it puts
> out vs the size of the engine says it all. The heat generated is enormous!
> And the radiators are marginal at best. Air flow is the key and staying away
> from dead air( ie air behind other slow moving cars) this is an issue this
> is also a problem with Ducati's as well.
>
> I am curious what kind of temps do you normally see on the 355 in city stop
> and go traffic?
>
> The 512 runs right at 190 on the high end before the fans kick in, the oil
> temp runs around 160 never seen higher than that.
> It doesn’t mirror the oil temp at all.
>
> And while I am at it all of you should keep notes in your car on what the
> norms are while in traffic, worse case, stop and go traffic in the heat.
> This will give you a base line in the event you have a cooling issue while
> on the road, ie. When the fans come on, highest oil temp,highest water temp
> with a/c on etc.
> This is need to know shit if you own one of these cars unless you have very
> deep pockets.
>
> 2 days left before I leave for the UK and the last British GP at
> Silverstone.
>
> And by the way where is the guy  on the list who said the Toyota would
> dominate the GP series after 3 years ?
> I doubt if Toyota will be racing next year.
>
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>
> Clyde
>
> Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
> Manpad SME
> Clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net
> Mobile 678 641 9932
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Nielsen [mailto:judge4re [at] gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 3:06 PM
> To: clyde romero
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Maintenance
>
> Clyde:
>
> Just wrapping up a clutch replacement on my '83 GTS QV.  It wasn't
> starting to slip, but in replacing the suspension bushings, I took a
> "while I was in there" approach.  The disk seemed fine, but there was
> some uneven wear on the fly wheel, looks like the pressure plate was
> going out more than the friction material.  One good catch was that
> the pilot bearing was starting to fail.  Could feel some resistance
> while it was mounted, pulled if off and found a sliver of material
> missing from the inside edge.  $15 part that could have caused a
> massive bill if it failed catostrophically.  The car has 29k miles on
> it and seems to have more parts with concern than the 49k mile Mondial
> that it shares the garage with.  Driving them is key to keeping them
> running.
>
> I drove the 365 to work on Friday, coming home, in 93F weather, I
> could see the temps remain under control so long as the car kept
> moving, I needed to move two cars to get it back into the garage, I
> swear you could heat Anchorage with that motor at idle.
>
> Cheers,
> Erik
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:40 PM, clyde
> romero<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Guys most of you know that I have been a Ferrari owner and maintainer for
> a
>> long time.
>>
>> Since 1986.
>>
>> I am giving the list my observations with regards to maintenance schedules
>> that I have implemented on my own cars.
>>
>> I had a 308 GTB QV 84 which I put over 130K on it (bought it with 10k in
>> 1986) sold in 96
>>
>> And I currently own a 93 512 TR with 86K on it (bought it with 10K on as
>> well)
>>
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>> The biggest issue with the cars always seems to be the timing belts, here
> is
>> my observation having changed more than most on both 8 cyl and 12 cyl
> cars.
>>
>> The book says 40k and 5 yrs on the 8 cyl cars and 52.5 k on the 12 cyl
> cars
>> and 5 yrs as well.
>>
>> I just removed the belts and did the complete service and having said
> that,
>> those belts on the 512 TR were on the car for 8 yrs! The belts were fine
>> along with the bearings.
>>
>> The same goes for the 8 cyl cars.
>>
>> I never saw a wear issue with the 308 as well.
>>
>> Now the caveat is that I drive my cars around 6k a year which exercises
> the
>> entire platform, which in my opinion is extremely important.
>>
>> One of the biggest issues with cars is the cooling system. Having lived in
>> the deep south with both of these cars I can attest that they have had the
>> greatest of challenges with regards to how well the cooling system was
>> designed.
>>
>> I can say without a doubt that the 308 and 512 can withstand stop and go
>> traffic in New Orleans and Atlanta on a August day without a problem.
>>
>> All that being said how many of you take a water hose and go from the back
>> of your radiator and push water ever so gently from back to front to clean
>> the cooling fins every spring? (spray the front with 409 and let it sit
> for
>> a while, like a glass of wine maybe!)
>>
>>  You will be surprised to see what comes out the front side of your
>> radiator.
>>
>> I use Mobil 1 and change it every 7 K.
>>
>> Never had front wheel bearing issues, I have had to replace all the shock
>> bushing thoughand one steering rack on the 308 @ 90K.
>>
>>  I have never had a major issue with the cars to include clutches. The 308
>> had the original clutch in it when I sold it.
>>
>> How you check a clutch on a Ferrari is put it in 3 rd gear drive it at
> speed
>> 60 mph plus and get off the gas, if the revs jump you have issues!
>>
>> Like I said I never replaced a clutch on a Ferrari!
>>
>> With regards to catastrophic failures with Ferrari's I can say that I have
>> never experienced a failure of any kind. I have found that the cars are
> very
>> reliable and having had them for close to 200K miles I think that I know
> the
>> cars.
>>
>> In my opinion the 328 last year I think it's a 89 model is the best 3
> series
>> car they ever made.
>>
>> It's cheap and easy to maintain and parts are plentiful and the A/C works!
>>
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>>
>> I find the 355 a compromise, this car in my opinion is thermally
> challenged
>> at best, and the 348 a dismal failure across the board. (space shuttle
>> challenger car!)
>>
>> The 360 is a dealer maintained car as well as the 430. You need deep
> pockets
>> to own these cars.
>>
>>
>>
>> The 550/575 are the same as well but with less issues as there 3 Series
>> brothers.
>>
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>>
>> These are my observations.
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>>
>> Enjoy the summer.
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>> I leave for the UK on the 17th for the British GP.
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>> As for the Brawn Car it looks like a white dish towel on the track!
>>
>> It has no panache what so ever, but it is winning!
>>
>>  However image is everything in F-1 so go figure.
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>> Clyde
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>> Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
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>> Manpad SME
>>
>> Clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net
>>
>> Mobile 678 641 9932
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