Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Have your cake and eat it too!

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

Further info:

 

http://www.teslamotors.com/display_data/TeslaRoadsterBatterySystem.pdf

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

Uh, well, not really.

 

Spend a bit of time on the Tesla website.  The battery pack is MUCH more than just

batteries.  It contains a full cooling/heating system, as well as highly complex

proprietary electronics.  The individual cells are not replaceable.  It would require

a complete new battery system, which would have to be sourced from Tesla,

unless they choose to license the technology involved to others.

 

Hans.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Batteries is Batteries - Duracell, Energizer, Optima, Interstate, etc. will all want to get-into that BIG market and sell you batteries for your car - every future WalMart, Autozone, Pep Boys, Tire Rack, Batteris Plus, and Target will have them in-stock, 24/7.  How many different sizes for Camera and Watch batteries are there?  About a dozen or two?  Did variety kill the market?  Nope.  Silly argument.  Real Capitalists are excited by the prospects.

 

M

--- On Thu, 5/20/10, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Have your cake and eat it too!
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 5:38 PM

Yeah but one of life's lessons...

I had a trip out to Silicon Valley last March.  In the middle of a week of presenting for a customer, my mac book's battery died.  Stopped holding a charge, and pretty much was next to useless unless plugged into the AC adapter/wall...  Now fortunately, there were some Apple stores in the Valley and they for some odd reason were well stocked, so $115 later and I am good to go...

Now if I am driving out to Road America and my Tesla's batteries stop holding a charge while I am sleeping at the Osthoff?  I imagine I am entirely F'ed.  This is why Electric cars won't take off, not only are they expensive and less efficient than gasoline vehicles, but the lack of standardization out of the gate will turn it into another unholy Beta vs. VHS fight.  Wait for all the Prius owners to start footing the bill to replace the hybrid battery packs...  Not to mention if it becomes mainstream, dealing with the heavy metals in spent batteries...  China would probably be happy to make children's toys out of  it but shipping it over there might cost more than its worth.

Honestly I really like the Hydrogen fuel cell technology the best out of all the "alternative" sources.

Sorry for the rant, wanted to go flying today and didn't get a chance...  And hey man, stop with all the bicycles already.

LtWacko wrote:

I get tired of hearing "I'll take the old vs. new" or "new vs. old".  Mike, we're on the Ferrari list.  Take 'em both!  LOL.  Oh wait, my house is proof of that and I have room for nothing!

 

Rodney

 

 

 

In a message dated 05/20/10 05:18:39 Central Daylight Time, ferrari-request [at] ferrarilist.com writes:

Certainly having all your torque at 0 RPM is amazing, and having played
with RC cars for many years, its about time someone made a full size
version :)  All it will take is an incremental improvement in battery
technology to push these into the mainstream, but I would not trade it
for the WOT scream of a V-8, 10 or 12 on any given sunny afternoon :).

BR,
Mike

 

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