Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Plastic refinishing

[Peter Pless (ferrarilist]

I used oven cleaner to remove the goo and then painted with plastidip for a near to original finish. I’m quite happy with the job.

 

http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip

 

From: Charles Perry [mailto:charles [at] carolina-sound.com]
Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:15 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: Ferrarilist
Subject: [Ferrari] Plastic refinishing

 

Larry -

 

I did all the goo removal myself on my 355 (and it was extensive in that car). I collected a lot of info on FChat, here and other sources before trying. I ended up trying three or four things on inconspicuous spots before settling on my solution.

 

My own conclusion was that oven cleaner, acetone, toluene, Goo Gone, mineral spirits and the other things recommended were way harsher than necessary and could damage or discolor the plastic.

 

My parts came cleanest (without damaging the part) with just a simple application of rubbing alcohol by q-tip. I went through two boxes of q-tips and about 12 movies since I just removed all the parts at once and sat on my couch for a couple of days polishing, but they came quite clean and the plastic underneath was a pretty black, so for everything but the steering column I just left the underlying plastic.

 

For the steering column, I liked the texture, so I used the textured plastic paint from Lowe's that someone recommended. It came out beautifully.

 

I'm not putting down any of the refinishing services. Everyone raves about them, and I think they go the extra step of re-coating all the plastic with newer paint or some other finish, but I have been quite pleased with what I did.

 

I did replace the center console with carbon fiber because a) I really like CF and b) I didn't want to have to get the new overlay to put over the cleaned plastic.

 

But the cleanup is easy. Removing some of the parts from the car was the only tricky part, and as with everything Italian, the trick is go slow and don't use too much force. If you need force, you're doing something wrong.

 

-- charles

 

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From: Larry B [mailto:larrybard [at] hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:52 AM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: Ferrarilist
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....

I didn't realize the sticky plastic trim problem was also encountered in the 348.  Unfortunately, I'm well aware of its presence in the 512TR.  What is the most commonly used method for "fixing" the problem now (other than replacement of the deteriorated parts)?  I've read about using oven cleaner and other means that I don't care to try.
 
Larry
 

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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 05:34:22 -0700
From: cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com

Yea, but did you KEEP the car?  Was it really that 'good' that you couldn't see yourself parting with it as a truly Iconic automobile?  I keep toothbrushes longer than you keep cars....LOL! 

 

The 348 was a pre-quality-control machine that marked a 'first' for Ferrari:  the use of PLASTIC in the interior.  A plastic that over time, became sticky/gooey as the material began to leech or deteriorate.  It can be fixed 'now', but back then there was no remedy for the slimey-plastic problem.  How's that for a car that sold new for $120,000 and got spanked by the NSX regularly?

 

M

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 6:27 PM

Haha...indeed.

My 348TS was great. More reliable than my Honda minivan actually...

LS

 

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From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 6:01:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....

Sensationalism usually trumps reality in the online world....

:-)

FG

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, broken record much?  I'd say you took a lesson here from the Republican party, just keep repeating the message and maybe it will become the truth...  Certainly we will find WMD's in the Iraqi desert one day...

Clyde, be honest with us now?  We are all good acquaintances here...  did a 348 sleep with your mother, then smack you around a bit afterwards?  Someone in a 348 knocked over your Ducati and didn't leave a note?  Is it because your 512 TR has bigger cheese graters on its sides?

OK so how many service bulletins did it really have?  Give us the total number please?  vs.  Say the 328 or a 1984 Chevette or a 360 Modena?

OK not Ferrari's best effort certainly, but having owned one, I can testify it was damn fun to drive, held up well on the racetrack, and aside from a new clutch and TO bearing was largely low maintenance for a (at that time 9 years old) used car.

Seriously you keep saying how awful it is, but having driven several 355's, 348s a 328 and even a 550 or two, I don't see really see it as quite as bad as you do?

Mike


clyde romero wrote:

A 348 is a shit box car

This car had more service bulletins than the space shuttle

I would not buy this car under any circumstances

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:10 PM
To: Clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:56 PM, <Britt2Asa [at] aol.com> wrote:

Hey Guys,

 

Tomorrow I am looking at a 1994 348 GTS, a very uncommon car around here being a late car sharing lots with the early 355. Its  a LHD (Which I prefer) and available right now with fresh cambelts for 22,000 pounds which at todays exchange rate is about 32k USD. That's about market price for the car right now. Has 40000 miles, is Red/Black, no rust and in good nick.

 

355's will cost about 35k (pounds right now) and a good 360 45-50k pounds max (even a Spider). I know one Spider that just sold for 32k pounds here locally.

 

Don't really love the 348 but for 22k with a fresh service its a LOTTA car for the coin.

 

At the right price, almost any enthusiast car is worth a shot....

I would say if they kept the manual steering and heavier controls of the 348 onto the 355, then perhaps you can say the 348 was truly a Ferrari anomaly. I would almost say the 355 would have been the perfect V8 F-car save for the lack of torque. ;)

But 308/328 feel with 355 performance, and it is that rare unique quality of the 348 that keeps me from ever writing it off completely.

Has the 348 become the Dino 308 of the modern age? Loved only by those who own them. :)

FG

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