Ferrari Mailing List: Re: What you can buy for $30k.... Mondial T

Re: What you can buy for $30k.... Mondial T	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: clyde romero (clyderomerof4bellsouth.net)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT)

Oh god if the car is white its an elephant !

"IF YOU CAN MEET WITH TRIUMPH AND DISASTER AND TREAT THOSE TWO IMPOSTERS THE SAME"

CLYDE

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From: David [mailto:david [at] tynerroberts.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:14 PM
To: Clyde
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k.... Mondial T

30K is way too much. It would have to be a show winner to get that needing a major, and if it’s not that good, then 20-25. (15 if you ask cLyDe J ) It’s white after all!

Heck – I even have a Mondial t and would love to see them worth more, but sad fact is, they aren’t worth much at all.

Dave

From: Scott Saidel [mailto:Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:05 AM
To: David
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k.... Mondial T

The other day I was at my mechanic going over some "issues" with my "new" car (a 1981 380SL) and I noticed something new in the back, behind the motorhome. Apparently, he has been hiding a Mondial T from me. I inquired and he explained that it had been back there under the cover waiting until he had time to do a major and that he had decided to sell it instead. Of course, I had to know how much ... He will let it go for $30K and will make a buyer a deal on the major. So if any one is interested.

She is white / and, I think, tan. Relatively low miles. Besides that I don't have many details, but can get them if anyone is interested.

Scottie

On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:49 AM, David wrote:

The problem with the sticky plastic etc is the rubberized coating on the plastic. The plastic itself is fine. The amazing thing is that the Enzo even has this same crappy coating on a few interior parts. I’d be a little miffed if I spent THAT much money on a car to have the interior go sticky. I guess the truth is that my wife would be even more miffed if I spent that much money on a car while she still has a minivan with 200k on it J

For the most part, quality control has never been a strength at Ferrari. As long as a car makes it past the warranty period then that’s good enough. Look at cylinder liners in 355s! When BMW had the same problem they were replacing engines. Ferrari bargained on owners not putting enough miles on their cars during the warranty period for the problem to surface.

With hindsight being what it is, I’d happily own a 348. The issues are known and there really are no surprises with these cars. 355s and 360s are still revealing flaws that are catching some people unaware. 355s with cylinder liner issues and 360s with gearbox issues.

Dave

From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:34 AM
To: David
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....

Yea, but did you KEEP the car? Was it really that 'good' that you couldn't see yourself parting with it as a truly Iconic automobile? I keep toothbrushes longer than you keep cars....LOL!

The 348 was a pre-quality-control machine that marked a 'first' for Ferrari: the use of PLASTIC in the interior. A plastic that over time, became sticky/gooey as the material began to leech or deteriorate. It can be fixed 'now', but back then there was no remedy for the slimey-plastic problem. How's that for a car that sold new for $120,000 and got spanked by the NSX regularly?

--- On Wed, 8/18/10, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 6:27 PM

Haha...indeed.

My 348TS was great. More reliable than my Honda minivan actually...

LS

From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 6:01:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....

Sensationalism usually trumps reality in the online world....

:-)

FG

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, broken record much? I'd say you took a lesson here from the Republican party, just keep repeating the message and maybe it will become the truth... Certainly we will find WMD's in the Iraqi desert one day...

Clyde, be honest with us now? We are all good acquaintances here... did a 348 sleep with your mother, then smack you around a bit afterwards? Someone in a 348 knocked over your Ducati and didn't leave a note? Is it because your 512 TR has bigger cheese graters on its sides?

OK so how many service bulletins did it really have? Give us the total number please? vs. Say the 328 or a 1984 Chevette or a 360 Modena?

OK not Ferrari's best effort certainly, but having owned one, I can testify it was damn fun to drive, held up well on the racetrack, and aside from a new clutch and TO bearing was largely low maintenance for a (at that time 9 years old) used car.

Seriously you keep saying how awful it is, but having driven several 355's, 348s a 328 and even a 550 or two, I don't see really see it as quite as bad as you do?

Mike

clyde romero wrote:

A 348 is a shit box car

This car had more service bulletins than the space shuttle

I would not buy this car under any circumstances

"IF YOU CAN MEET WITH TRIUMPH AND DISASTER AND TREAT THOSE TWO IMPOSTERS THE SAME"

CLYDE

Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.

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Clyderomero [at] bellsouth.net

Mobile 678 641 9932

From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:10 PM
To: Clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] What you can buy for $30k....

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:56 PM, <Britt2Asa [at] aol.com> wrote:

Hey Guys,

Tomorrow I am looking at a 1994 348 GTS, a very uncommon car around here being a late car sharing lots with the early 355. Its a LHD (Which I prefer) and available right now with fresh cambelts for 22,000 pounds which at todays exchange rate is about 32k USD. That's about market price for the car right now. Has 40000 miles, is Red/Black, no rust and in good nick.

355's will cost about 35k (pounds right now) and a good 360 45-50k pounds max (even a Spider). I know one Spider that just sold for 32k pounds here locally.

Don't really love the 348 but for 22k with a fresh service its a LOTTA car for the coin.

At the right price, almost any enthusiast car is worth a shot....

I would say if they kept the manual steering and heavier controls of the 348 onto the 355, then perhaps you can say the 348 was truly a Ferrari anomaly. I would almost say the 355 would have been the perfect V8 F-car save for the lack of torque. ;)

But 308/328 feel with 355 performance, and it is that rare unique quality of the 348 that keeps me from ever writing it off completely.

Has the 348 become the Dino 308 of the modern age? Loved only by those who own them. :)

FG

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