Ferrari Mailing List: Re: ethanol

[l02turner (l02turner]

Well, the secret’s OUT now!  Thanks a lot! 

 

Larry

 

From: E M

Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:03 PM

To: l02turner [at] comcast.net

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ethanol

 

We all know you had the MGB fully restored in two years, it's just taken you the last 18 years to get the final top coat of wax on, exactly as you like it! ;-) hee hee

Ed
911SC

On 7 November 2010 16:05, <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

Jeff & All,

    I’ve had bad experiences with the fuel pump in my ‘66 MGB since Ethanol was 1st mandated back in the 70s.  The E-10 would eat up the seals/rubber within about a month.  I replaced several before finding one that would survive for a longer time. 

 

    BTW, I am starting the engine of my MGB for the 1st time following a 20 year restoration – it’s  surprising how much I’ve forgotten after 20 years.  I drove that car for 20+ years & 350,000 miles while maintaining it myself - so I knew it inside & out but have forgotten much more than I thought.   Oh well, that’s what workshop manuals are for .

 

    A question:    Does Ethanol really help anything?  The thought of using our food for fuel seems like a odd choice.    Or is it totally driven by the Corn Industry Groups who call for more and more Ethanol use?   I tend to be a bit suspicious when the gov’t says they’re going to help us....

 

Take care -

LarryT 

 

 

 

From: Jeff Greenfield

Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:17 AM

To: Larry Turner

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ethanol

 

Here in the north east all gas has a 10% Ethanol content.

 

As mentioned by someone else, ethanol will absorb moisture from the atmosphere. This is a bigger issue with older cars (and boats) that do not have a 'closed' fuel system which modern cars all have.

 

The E10 fuel also has a shorter shelf life.

 

Problems are numerous. Gas tanks rust internally, (it will dissolve fiberglass fuel tanks used in some boats), causes corrosion in carb's and fuel systems, it will eat fuel pump diaphragms and hoses.

 

I've run into many problems on older cars that are infrequently used, having the carb's get all gummed up.

 

Best thing you can do is not use blended fuels if at all possible. If you have an older car that is seldom used and live in an area where all fuel is blended, if you know someone at the local airport who will let you fill up with av gas it is well worth the extra cost. It is way more stable and can sit in the tank for a year or more without any problems.

 

Short if that, use a fuel stabilizer specifically designed fir blended fuels. Stabil now has a (green in color) marine fuel

stabilizer for ethanol blend fuels. Don't let the marine thing scare you, it's fine in cars too.

 

Jeff

 

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On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:19 PM, dale sailors <sailorsdaleedward [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi,

    Does ethanol or alcohol based fuel negatively affect Ferraris past or present?

    What components are potentially harmed?

    Back when I rode BMW M/Cs, gas with ethanol would ruin diaphrams and seals in BING carbs very quickly. I retrofitted R90S model DELLORTO carbs which seemed to have no problem.  SHELL aviation gas ran wonderfully in those machines too! The local small airport would fill up the tank with no questions about road tax.

      Ciao

      Dale

PS Just read the Bleacher Report, F1 is getting like pro wrestling!

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