Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 52, Issue 34

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>   1. Re: 550/575 year dates (Scott Saidel)
>   2. NFC: Italian electronics being blamed for Cuise Ship  Disaster
>      (Rick)
>   3. Re: NFC: Italian electronics being blamed for Cuise Ship
>      Disaster (E M)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:18:35 -0500
>From: Scott Saidel <Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550/575 year dates
>To: Steve Jenkins <steve [at] stevejenkins.com>
>Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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>I hear that they are all the rage on the streets of the ghetto - one sitting 
>on every corner with the keys hanging out of the ignition.
>
>Then again I might be hearing cLyDe's voice in my head again.  
>
>
>Scottie
>
>
>On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote:
>
>I?ve been hankering for a 575M with the HGTC package and carbon fiber kit.
> 
>MMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
> 
>I tried to buy one a couple years ago but the seller wanted WAY too much for 
>it.
> 
>SJ
> 
>From: Doug and Terri Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net] 
>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 1:57 AM
>To: Steve Jenkins
>Cc: 'The FerrariList'
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550/575 year dates
> 
>- - - - with MOST 575's delivered with F1 gear boxes.
>DOUG
> 
>----- Original Message -----
>From: clyde romero
>To: DOUG
>Cc: 'The FerrariList'
>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:04 AM
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550/575 year dates
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>Thanks
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>"IF YOU CAN MEET WITH TRIUMPH AND DISASTER AND TREAT THOSE TWO IMPOSTERS THE 
>SAME"
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>CLYDE
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>Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
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>From: Gary Reed [mailto:gary [at] garyreedsales.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:47 AM
>To: Clyde
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>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 550/575 year dates
> 
>This info is from a thread on FChat.
> 
>Gary
> 
>550 Maranello
>Production started: 1996.
>Production ended: 2001.
>Total production: 3,083 (457 RHD).
>First serial number: 100382(?).
>Last serial number: 129817(?).
>
>575M Maranello
>Production started: 2001.
>Production ended: 2005.
>Total production: ??
>First serial number: 122976(?).
>Last serial number: 142227(?).
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: clyde romero
>To: Gary Reed
>Cc: The FerrariList
>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:39 AM
>Subject: [Ferrari] 550/575 year dates
> 
>What years where the 550 and 575 produced and does anyone have the production 
>numbers?
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>"IF YOU CAN MEET WITH TRIUMPH AND DISASTER AND TREAT THOSE TWO IMPOSTERS THE 
>SAME"
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>CLYDE
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>Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:25:54 -0500
>From: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>
>Subject: [Ferrari] NFC: Italian electronics being blamed for Cuise
>    Ship    Disaster
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>I thought it was only the British that had reputations for horrible 
>electronics?
>Rick
>
>
>Cruise ship predicament baffling 
>Carnival Splendor's design among issues investigated 
>By Gary Stoller
>USA TODAY 
>
>Marine experts are questioning whether there was a design flaw in the Carnival 
>Splendor cruise ship, which lost power after an engine fire and was towed to 
>San Diego on Thursday with nearly 4,500 people aboard. 
>
>A generator for an engine caught fire in the aft engine room 6 a.m. Monday, 
>damaging a switchboard and "preventing the transmission of electricity to 
>other machinery, including the propulsion motors," said Carnival spokeswoman 
>Joyce Oliva.
>
>The cause of the fire, which was put out by the crew and the ship's automatic 
>fire-suppression system, is unknown. 
>
>Because the majority of passengers aboard the Panama-flagged cruise ship were 
>U.S. citizens, the investigation into the cause of the fire will be conducted 
>by the Coast Guard, the National Transportation Safety Board and Panama, the 
>NTSB said late Thursday. 
>
>The 952-foot-long Carnival Splendor has six engines - three in the aft engine 
>room and three in a forward engine room. Electric cables connect each engine's 
>generator to two switchboards, Oliva said.
>
>Clark Dodge, former chief engineer for Washington State Ferries, said large 
>passenger vessels are designed to ensure that such a fire doesn't cause a loss 
>of all power. An engine-room fire and damage to a generator and a switchboard 
>shouldn't shut down other generators and engines, he said.
>
>"What happened makes no sense to me," said Dodge, a consultant. "If things 
>were designed properly, all the power shouldn't have gone out."
>
>Dodge said he's confident that Coast Guard and NTSB investigators will 
>pinpoint what went wrong. 
>
>David Ballard, a consultant who taught marine mechanics for more than a dozen 
>years, said it is "really odd" to lose all power. Ships are designed with 
>independent systems to maintain electricity and air conditioning, and keep 
>other engines operating, when an engine fails, he said.
>
>Nearly everything requiring electricity was inoperable after the fire. There 
>was no air conditioning, hot water, cooking stoves or refrigeration. Interior 
>rooms were pitch-black, and the pool, casino and some bars were closed. Ship's 
>engineers started backup generators to provide limited power. 
>
>The Carnival Splendor was designed and built to standards that would prevent a 
>total loss of power from a single generator catching fire, said Mike Crye, 
>executive vice president of the Cruise Lines International Association. The 
>group represents Carnival and 24 other cruise lines.
>
>The ship was built by "reputable builders" in Italy, and its design was 
>approved by the Coast Guard and other maritime regulators, Crye said. It has 
>been regularly inspected by the Coast Guard since its first cruise in July 
>2008.
>
>http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20101112/cruiseinside12_st.art.htm?loc=interstitialskip
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:29:40 -0500
>From: E M <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Italian electronics being blamed for Cuise
>    Ship    Disaster
>To: Rick <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>
>Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
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>Ok, who put the penny behind the blown fuse in the big panel??  Hmmm
>
>Ed
>911SC
>
>On 13 November 2010 11:25, Rick <Forza355 [at] verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>  I thought it was only the British that had reputations for horrible
>> electronics?
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> Cruise ship predicament baffling
>> Carnival Splendor's design among issues investigated
>>
>> By Gary Stoller
>> USA TODAY
>>
>> Marine experts are questioning whether there was a design flaw in the
>> Carnival Splendor cruise ship, which lost power after an engine fire and was
>> towed to San Diego on Thursday with nearly 4,500 people aboard.
>>
>> A generator for an engine caught fire in the aft engine room 6 a.m. Monday,
>> damaging a switchboard and "preventing the transmission of electricity to
>> other machinery, including the propulsion motors," said Carnival spokeswoman
>> Joyce Oliva.
>>
>> The cause of the fire, which was put out by the crew and the ship's
>> automatic fire-suppression system, is unknown.
>>
>> Because the majority of passengers aboard the Panama-flagged cruise ship
>> were U.S. citizens, the investigation into the cause of the fire will be
>> conducted by the Coast Guard, the National Transportation Safety Board and
>> Panama, the NTSB said late Thursday.
>>
>> The 952-foot-long Carnival Splendor has six engines ? three in the aft
>> engine room and three in a forward engine room. Electric cables connect each
>> engine's generator to two switchboards, Oliva said.
>>
>> Clark Dodge, former chief engineer for Washington State Ferries, said large
>> passenger vessels are designed to ensure that such a fire doesn't cause a
>> loss of all power. An engine-room fire and damage to a generator and a
>> switchboard shouldn't shut down other generators and engines, he said.
>>
>> "What happened makes no sense to me," said Dodge, a consultant. "If things
>> were designed properly, all the power shouldn't have gone out."
>>
>> Dodge said he's confident that Coast Guard and NTSB investigators will
>> pinpoint what went wrong.
>>
>> David Ballard, a consultant who taught marine mechanics for more than a
>> dozen years, said it is "really odd" to lose all power. Ships are designed
>> with independent systems to maintain electricity and air conditioning, and
>> keep other engines operating, when an engine fails, he said.
>>
>> Nearly everything requiring electricity was inoperable after the fire.
>> There was no air conditioning, hot water, cooking stoves or refrigeration.
>> Interior rooms were pitch-black, and the pool, casino and some bars were
>> closed. Ship's engineers started backup generators to provide limited power.
>>
>>
>> The Carnival Splendor was designed and built to standards that would
>> prevent a total loss of power from a single generator catching fire, said
>> Mike Crye, executive vice president of the Cruise Lines International
>> Association. The group represents Carnival and 24 other cruise lines.
>>
>> The ship was built by "reputable builders" in Italy, and its design was
>> approved by the Coast Guard and other maritime regulators, Crye said. It has
>> been regularly inspected by the Coast Guard since its first cruise in July
>> 2008.
>>
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20101112/cruiseinside12_st.art.htm?loc=interstitialskip
>>
>>
>>
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