Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Emissions, Oil Analysis And Senior texting WAS 308 Emissions

Thx Doug - Exactly - we're on the same team.

On a related note, we are an aging group (some faster and/or more advanced 

than others) who are always on the cutting edge of technology   ;-)

The following might be relevant:

For your enjoyment during the Christmas Season  -

Seniors are texting & tweeting;
there appears to be a need for a STC (Senior Texting Code)

ATD: At The Doctor's
BFF: Best Friend Farted
BTW: Bring The Wheelchair
BYOT: Bring Your Own Teeth
CBM: Covered By Medicare
CUATSC: See You At The Senior Center
DWI: Driving While Incontinent
FWB: Friend With Beta Blockers
FWIW: Forgot Where I Was
FYI: Found Your Insulin
GGPBL: Gotta Go, Pacemaker Battery Low!
GHA: Got Heartburn Again
HGBM: Had Good Bowel Movement
IMHO: Is My Hearing-Aid On?
LMDO: Laughing My Dentures Out
LOL: Living On Lipitor
LWO: Lawrence Welk's On
OMMR: On My Massage Recliner
OMSG: Oh My! Sorry, Gas.
ROFL... CGU: Rolling On The Floor Laughing... And Can't Get Up
SGGP: Sorry, Gotta Go Poop
TTYL: Talk To You Louder
WAITT: Who Am I Talking To?
WTFA: Wet The Furniture Again
WTP: Where's The Prunes?
WWNO: Walker Wheels Need Oil

LarryT
'74 911

-----Original Message----- 

From: Doug and Terri Anderson

Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:58 PM
To: l02turner [at] comcast.net
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 QV emissions failure and possible misfire

OK Larry - I'll concede oil analysis is like a engine blood test.

So I guess a five gas emission test is similar to testing a fart?  Hmmm,
lots of methane here.  heh heh

No - perhaps an emission test is similar to a UA?

Nawww.  Its still a blood test - just a different type.  Some do cellular
evaluation while other tests do molecular evaluations.

We're on the same team - but oil analysis can predict way way way into the
future and prevent horrific problems.  An emissions test says this is your
engine now - oh, a burnt valve because your valve guide wore out?  Tough
buns Ace -

Onward and a Merry Christmas to you too Larry.
DOUG

----- Original Message ----- 

From: <l02turner [at] comcast.net>

To: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 QV emissions failure and possible misfire

Doug wrote <<Get me your readings [Smog Test] - its like the engines blood 

test>>

Merry Christmas, Doug!

Doug, Doug, Doug - Everyone *knows*  "Oil Analysis is like a blood test 

for a engine!"

Sheesh!  ;-)

LarryT

-----Original Message----- 

From: Doug and Terri Anderson

Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 11:11 AM
To: Larry Turner
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 308 QV emissions failure and possible misfire

Ahhh Alex - the ever wonderful world of CIS, the constant injection 

system.

VERY temperamental to air leaks.  Especially at the boot area.  The pop 

you

hear may be a misfire fired off in the cat (shudder) but most likely it is 

a

lean mixture misfire spit back.

Do you have a method to check CO?  These systems are set on fuel pressure
and CO.

What is failing on your smog report?  HC, CO, NOx (do you test for that?

Needs a dyne to do it or the test equipment is shoved in your passenger 

seat

and your car is driven about - yes, they had that at one time)

Get me your readings - its like the engines blood test.

Onward
DOUG

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Alexander Ishii" <alexishii [at] mindspring.com>

To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 7:58 AM
Subject: [Ferrari] 308 QV emissions failure and possible misfire

Hi All,

So my 84 QV has been stubbornly failing emissions (in NJ), and after some

repeated assertions by my usual mechanic that "all seems to be well", 

I've

found myself having to try and figure out the problem myself.

At the moment, the car is not idling right in my mind (despite what my
mechanic says).  For one, the idle speeds "hunts" a bit; not enough to be
seen on the tach, but enough to be felt as a slight change in the
vibration
frequency of the engine.  Second, every couple of seconds one gets a
just-audible muffled "pop" sound from the engine, accompanied by a slight
puff of extra exhaust out of the tail pipes (no sound out of the air
intake
system).  Also, the car is running sort of on the hot side (coolant temp
"idles" at 195).

Plugs and wires were changed not long ago, but other than that, nothing
much
has required much tinkering in many years.

The "pop" has me thinking than one-or-more of the cylinders is
intermittently misfiring and dumping some un-burnt fuel into the exhaust

manifold (where it is igniting and "popping").  Given the "every couple 

of

seconds" nature of the problem, however, I have little doubt that all the
sparks will look fine when I try the usual tests.  Anyone have any

suggestions for how I might try and zero-in on the faulty system (short 

of

swapping-out every part one-by-one until the issue goes away)?

Also, it has also occurred to me that the problem might be that the
injectors are not atomizing properly, and leading to an complete burn (in
turn leading to exhaust manifold ignition of the leftover fuel).  Has
anyone
seen symptoms like the above be remedied with replacement of the
injectors?

All thoughts/opinions/experiences would be appreciatively accepted.

   Cheers,
   Alex

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Re: Emissions, Oil Analysis And Senior texting WAS 308 Emissions	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: l02turner (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:18:52 -0800 (PST)