Re: commander in chief
From: Rick (Forza355verizon.net)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
 

Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] commander in chief

Yes,
it is easy to have a home when you buy it with money you don't have and put nothing into it. They were renters not home owners regardless of what the mortgage papers said.
 
Gas prices are due to supply/demand, I don't see any politician affecting them either way, regardless prices are cheaper now in the USA in real terms then they were 30 years ago AND vehicles get better mpg so the real affect based on household incomes of fuel prices is LOWER than ever. Try paying 10.00 a gallon as I am today and then complain.
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In Aug 2008, Oil was $ 140 a barrel, and Gas was $ 4.00 a gallon in the US. TO try and reverse the price spike, Bush ordered new costal areas of the US opened to drilling. 6 Months later, Bush's last day in office ,Oil was $ 30.00 a barrel and gas was below $ 2.00 a gallon. Gas demand in the US did not drop by 50 % in those 6 months, so the supply / demand theory is thrown out the window. As we now know, market speculating by institutions drove the price up.
Obama immediately rescinded that Bush order to open more oil drilling areas in the US when he got into office. The oil price charts clearly show an immediate  150 % rise  in Oil prices by the end of Obama's first year.
 
 
 
Unemployment is low when there is loads of money to borrow and spend thus creating demand. It was a credit based inflationary boom not based on reality or any true economic principle. Oh and during this boom the USA sold its self  lock stock and barrel to the Chinese so welcome to the new reality.
 
You only earned 5% because of the demand for your money.
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Yep. Just like we earned 14 % on CD's in the 1970's. Unfortunately today, Bank CD's pay less than 1 %  some barely even .5 %, just wonderful if you are a retired person living off savings interest payments as many do. Now they are forced to spend away their bank principle balances, causing a death spiral of their savings.  What are bank interest rates on savings in your country? Or do retired  people not depend on investment income there because your  Gov't takes massive taxes away from workers to give to retired people to live on?
 
Obama put a $1 Trillion on future generations credit cards in 1 year  calling it a stimulus bill. He claimed if we did nothing, unemployment rates would hit 8 % . Well after the stimulus we hit 10 % unemployment rates, and we have to pay off  that stimulus money over decades, with interest. I didn?t even mention the cash for clunkers car  deal Obama invented , where people got the Govt to  pay $ 4,000.00 towards a purchase of their new car 2 years ago. 20 years from now kids out of college in their first job, will  be making interest payments via taxes, on peoples car purchases 20 years ago.
 
 
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 The Government debt was caused by bailing out all the banks and the criminals who stole the money. I don't think either party did anything to help here. The Bush administration filled the Fed with the same banker criminals (and ZERO regulation oversite) that the current administration has. Nothing has changed, since Reagan deregulated, the banks have been rolling in it and Americans have let them as long as they could buy cheap stuff at Walmart. (The Savings and Loan crisis in the 80's was the exact same thing)
 
I realise that not everyone on here is an economics expert but this is basic stuff. You really should watch the documentary INSIDE JOB and you would then understand a bit about why things are how they are.
 
I'm an equal opportunity hater, I hate all politicians equally.
 
Regards
 
BR in the UK
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1993 Alfa Spider S4 LHD
2010 BMW 320d
 
In a message dated 05/05/2011 14:38:02 GMT Daylight Time, Forza355 [at] verizon.net writes:
Yeah, in 2006, when Pelosi & Crew  were calling the Bush economy a Disaster
and a " depression",

US Unemployment rates were 4.5 %
You could earn 5 % interest rates on a CD
Gas prices were under $ 2.00
Millions of people still had their homes.
The US FY Deficit was only $ 190 Billion.

Yep, things are way better now all right.
I wonder when the next Airline furloughs start from the massive losses due
to Jet Fuel Prices Skyrocketing.
Who knew Jimmy Carter would come out smelling like a rose after these 4
years?





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From: "Mike" <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:35 PM
To: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] commander in chief

> No,
>
> That was the only thing he was good at...  It was everything else that was
> continuous epic failure...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 4, 2011, at 8:28 PM, "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> What's Obama doing with "Cowboy" G. W. Bush's hat ? ;-)
>> Wasn't being a Cowboy what all the Bush haters attacked him for 8 years
>> over?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alter: Obama 'A Reluctant Warrior,' Not Cowboy Like Bush
>>
>> Mark Finkelstein | March 21, 2011
>> Of all the Obama sycophants in the press, could the president possibly
>> have
>> a more abject apologist than Jonathan Alter?
>>
>> The MNSBC analyst gave a groveling demonstration of his devotion in an
>> interview with Willie Geist, guest-hosting on The Daily Rundown this
>> morning.  Beyond the predictable swipes at W, notable was the essential
>> incoherence of Alter's defense of PBO's foreign policy.
>>
>> JONATHAN ALTER: This is the hand he's been dealt by hisotry.  He's a
>> reluctant warrior.  So it's not as if he's converted to being a cowboy.
>> So
>> I think people recognize the difference between him and former Pres.
>> Bush.
>>
>> Read more:
>> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/03/21/alter-obama-reluctant-warrior-not-cowboy-bush#ixzz1LRAZ03Pg
>>
>> From: "clyde romero" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:02 PM
>> To: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Subject: [Ferrari] commander in chief
>>
>>> The picture says it all
>>>
>>> JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF WRONG!
>>>
>>> "SCARS ARE TATOOS WITH BETTER STORIES"
>>>
>>> CLYDE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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