Re: NFC Off Topic Computer Vs Network
From: Larry (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:06:29 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks Adam – I don’t take my laptop out of the house although there are other networks in the neighborhood that are both secure and insure – I have a password on my Router so hopefully that helps?   Since my laptop stays home I hope hot spots are a non issue?I use Comcast which provides Norton with the package – I ran the trial versions of Malware and Byte something.  Both ran but found nothing so I am hoping that means Norton is doing its job? 
 
BTW, I allow MS and Norton to automatically update.   I kept reading that allowing MS to automatically update to keep their   security stuff to stay current.  Same with Norton and their AV defs.
 
Thanks for the info – sounds like my assumptions were close – but as you said about “standards” – there are standards then there are standards. ;-^   
 
With my computers staying in the house and the router pass-worded I hope I’m fairly safe.  As far as my cell phone – I never read email with it  - I have a basic phone – no fancy keyboard – no texting, etc.  If I could have gotten one without the camera I would have.... 
 
BTW, I see stuff talking about “RF” signals being high-jacked from cell phones – any truth to that? – is it very preve
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
lant?  What info can  be stolen if theft is possible?
 
Thanks Adam – I really appreciate this -
 
LarryT
 
 
 
From: Adam Green
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC Off Topic Computer Vs Network
 
You've got the gist of it.  Some would joke "there's so many standards, there's always one that fits" but sadly there's so many standards, there's really no standard.  Here's what's in my head:
 
"network" is everything and nothing specific.
 
"WAN" is anything outside your computer or outside your office or outside your home.  This can be your ISP, or simply the Web or Internet or it can mean:
 
"hotspot" (wifi service in a public or private venue where a password or security may or may not exist ... be extremely cautious when using any hotspot.  Even if a hotspot requires a password, it can still be insecure.  Once someone has your email password, you're swinging in the breeze -- they can look in your email provider files, your drafts, your sent mail, your inbox, find other references to passwords, financial accounts, etc.  Just carrying a bloody cell phone with wifi into an open hotspot is enough for anyone to get your email password.  I'd say this is fast becoming the most common way for people to get their email highjacked.
 
"LAN" is anything between your computers, inside your home or office, your private network, inside your:
 
"firewall" is a router (simplest term for any number of configurations of hardware) and software designed to keep unwelcome visitors outside, but won't necessarily protect you from:
 
"malware" (malicious software trying to infect your computers with a virus, steal your private information or simply damage or corrupt your files or systems.
 
I mention all these because you must (must!) have all these bases covered, or you're swinging in the breeze ... may as well start and run your freshly rebuilt race engine without oil pressure -- the consequences are inevitable and tragic. 
 
When you'e setting up Windows 7, if you're changing security settings, avoid letting anything have access to your LAN.  Avoid leaving file sharing or printer sharing available to anything -- at least restrict everything to the LAN.  The Windows 7 defaults are quite strict and will prevent or at least warn you of any activity on your computer that could be unwelcome.  Unless you're following specific instructions to get something going (like a VPN or trusted software like Skype or Google) then don't open up any of the access restrictions, don't allow browser plug-ins, don't allow things to "start when Windows starts" etc.
 

"ISP" is the Internet Service Provider, which is a paid service to provide a logical set up and physical connection from your computer or private ni
 
When someone says "network" they probably also mean the network interface in your given computer and they might well be generally talking about getting your single computer or home network connected to the Web (aka Internet, aka WWW, aka "it's a bunch of pipes!") 
 
For any hardware or software since W7 or OS X, the configuration of the network ("the setup of the NIC" aka "IP address"  or any reference to software or hardware configuration) is generally fully automatic, beyond you knowing a password.  They're probably talking about access beyond the LAN, connecting your LAN to a WAN.
 
I run Mac OS X and Windows 7.  I use AVG Free on the W7 boxes.  Keep your OS updated.  Avoid using hotspots without security.  Don't leave your cell phone or laptop so that it will check for email as soon as it finds a wifi service.  Well, hopefully that scatter gun hit the target.
 

Adam


On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Larry <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Gang -
I worry about this every time I set up a new computer – maybe someone knows – I checked Wiki without success.
 
What’s the difference between “Internet’ and ‘Network’ – in the context of Microsoft providing instructions about setting up home networks?  They (MS) have many options about allowing access to this or that – mostly things like {do you want to allow others on the *network* to see your computer?”
 
I *think* a network is like my home LAN – with only outside access coming thru the router/cable connection.  While the Internet is the WWW.  So I can allow access to others on my Network without fear (it’s just me and my wife)?
 
But with MS it’s hard to be 100% sure.
 
Am I fairly accurate?  I’m sure you can see the reason for needing a clear definition of these terms – to prevent opening access to my LAN to those on the WWW.
 
Thanks --   Please feel free to reply off forum at info [at] youroil.net  if you wish.

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