Re: [Ferrari list is the right place to bring arguementsto.]
From: Steve Jenkins (stevestevejenkins.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:54:47 -0700 (PDT)

Douglas Le Grand said:

 

ââMike Sheehan who has been convicted of Fraud against Ferrari owners.â

 

Perhaps you mean âaccusedâ of âcivil fraud?â Iâm late to this conversation and have no dog in this fight either, but I think itâs important to be precise when spreading gossip. Until someoneâs been convicted of a criminal act, I donât think itâs appropriate to say otherwise.

 

SteveJ

 

P.S. And I donât think Douglas has been on this list long enough to get this joke or to appreciate the good-natured spirit in which itâs intended, but it looks like he went to the cLyDe RoMerO school of capitalization. J

 

P.P.S. I hate dot.com millionaries too, Doug. How dare they live ANY lifeâ good or otherwise. J

 

P.P.P.S. Based on your email address, did you omit from your impressive list of certifications that you are also a minerals expert with a license to kill? That would be WAY more impressive than a silly old business administration degree. J

 

 

From: Douglas Le Grand [mailto:gemologist007 [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:56 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [Ferrari list is the right place to bring arguementsto.]

 

Thank You Adam, Yes, it is true, I am new to the Secret World of Ferrari Brokering to the rich and famous. I also have a Masters Degree in Economics, Bachelors Degree in Business Administration and Graduate from UTI in 1974. People like Mike Sheehan, who by the way tossed Mark Ketchem under the bus on the first sign of trouble, need to be stopped. Why allow dishonest person, see article, to continue ripping people off. Most people are wealthy because they work hard, smart and are honest. Mark Ketcham is a retired Dot.com millionaire living the good life on his personal winery in Hearldsberg, CA. He is now mixed up with Mike Sheehan who has been convicted of Fraud against Ferrari owners. I think, personally, that I am doing everyone a favor, except Mike Sheehan by exposing his business practices.

 

 

Douglas S. Le Grand

Mortgage Associate

Alliance Direct Home Mortgage

3131 Camino Del Rio North, Suite 900

San Diego, CA 92108

Phone: 619-327-2204 Fax: 619-327-2264

Email: dlegrand@alliancedirecthm.com

Steward Home Loans  3131 Camino Del Rio North Suite 900, San Diego, 92108

 

From: Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com>
To: Douglas <gemologist007 [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] FW: Fw: Your past is catching up with you. Know your broker.

I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't know any of the parties first hand, but any suggestion of censorship is outrageous.  Where the hell else does public debate on such a focused topic occur if not here?

 

If the claims by one party against another are wrong, well, it's no more damaging than the fact that there was a suit filed and court proceedings on record -- it's of course wrong to assume that just because there's a plaintiff case, that the plaintiff is somehow presumed "the innocent, injured party" so it's a matter of free, public, respectful discourse and, as ever, we can only trust that justice is done in the courts.  I won't be so skeptical or cynical as to widen the aperture to include the issue of justice. : )

 

I think we've heard good advice and opinions thus far and the only thing that should not happen is to censor or censure.  After all, we are living in a new age of public debate where no topic is out of bounds, especially corruption, and I can only hope some good will come of it.

Adam

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:35 PM, David Handa <dave [at] davehanda.com> wrote:

 

Douglas,

I think it is time to take this âinternet extortionâ attempt, off List. 

I appreciate the entertainment value while it lasted, but it is getting boorish nowâ.

 

 

 

From: Douglas Le Grand [mailto:gemologist007 [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:57 PM
To: dave handa
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Fw: Your past is catching up with you. Know your broker.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The lawyer who filed this was fired by his firm.

 

The Costa Mesa Police filed criminal charges against the lawyer who filed this..

 

Fuck you.

 

 

 

From: Douglas Le Grand [mailto:gemologist007 [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:50 PM
To: sales [at] ferraris-online.com; mark [at] ketchamimports.com
Subject: Your past is catching up with you.

 

TITLE

Fraud cases plague former Calif. Ferrari broker

PUB. DATE

May 1997

SOURCE

Automotive News;05/12/97, Vol. 71 Issue 5712, p27

SOURCE TYPE

Trade Publication

DOC. TYPE

Article

ABSTRACT

Reports on the civil fraud lawsuits filed against former top Ferrari broker Michael Sheehan. Bankruptcy protection for Sheehan's Costa Mesa company European Auto Sales and Restoration Inc.; Financial damages claimed by car collectors after global Ferrari prices crashed in the early 1990s.

 

 

 

Douglas S. Le Grand

Mortgage Associate

Alliance Direct Home Mortgage

3131 Camino Del Rio North, Suite 900

San Diego, CA 92108

Phone: 619-327-2204 Fax: 619-327-2264

Email: dlegrand@alliancedirecthm.com

 


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