Re: Need a valuation on my Ferrari...
From: jimshadow (jimshadowfrontier.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 18:28:12 -0800 (PST)
Holy sh*t....cLyDe found caffeine!!  LOL

Tell it like it is Brutha!!!!!

Jim
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On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:48 PM, "clyde romero" <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> 
wrote:

> Guys the 328 was no doubt the best 3 series 8 cylinder Ferrari ever built
> Pricing got real stupid after the old man died which didn't help anything
> when the shit box 348 showed up and the only car that was worst that that
> car was the mondial!
> The 348 is a fat girl in a leather skirt, everyone will look , but going
> home with her is another story!!
> The space shuttle has less service bulletins than the 348 so in reality the
> 348 doesn't count along with the Mondial when it comes to pricing 3 series,
> 8 cylinder models.
> Tops price on any of these models regardless of what the Yellow baby shit
> rag says(aka Ferrari market letter) is $30k.
> You are buying 20 to 25 year car or older,, and yes it is what it is!
> 
> Now we get to the 2nd 3 series  8 cylinder cars 355/360/430/458
> Those who bought in early on the 355 paid thru the nose for this girly car! 
> Yes Virginia it had power and a automatic gear box! 
> But wait that's what made it so damn popular in the first place
> Those who now had deep pockets could join us who knew what a clutch was for
> and now the unwashed was among us in SPADES!
> The F-1 gear box opened up the market to any all comers to the prancing
> horse, even the "P" and BMW crowd showed up when they wanted to get better
> girlfriends and parking places !
> Yes its true!
> And when they made the Spyder OMG they really showed up, like mosquitoes in
> Florida! 
> But that's when we found out about the damn seat tracks that would not let
> the top down, and you could get wet!
> Ferrari bought the tope mechanism form MCB but did buy the seat racks which
> signal the top so there you go!
> And the Dealers, Man these guys took these guys for all they were worth,
> even buying back the first cars and giving those buyers cash and ramping up
> the prices LARGE and I do mean LARGE
> Remember seeing 355 spyders going for $185k back in the day?
> What do you think that rage top 355 is worth now? 
> HUGO pricing comes to mind, and lest not leave out BMW 7 series pricing as
> well.
> Values that have sunk like a stone in a swimming pool!
> Those poor souls who spent all that money on a car without traction control
> and shit seat tracks!!
> Lets not mention the valve guide and cracking exhaust flanges !!!
> Anyway best price on this cracker would be $ 70k if perfect, but what car
> is?
> Hmmm
> 
> Now when the 360 came out the it killed the 355 resale hard, this car did
> not need belt service so right there it was a winner in my book!
> And guess what it had traction control(remember you had the "special needs
> crowd " now buying the cars with the F-1 tranny) 
> And they did a pretty good job with the mechanicals over all
> But it runs hot because of the intakes to the radiator sooo you don't see
> many of them in daylight conditions or in stop in go traffic,
> Basically if you can get by the so so styling this is the HONDA of Ferrari 8
> cylinders!
> Yep I said it 
> It has all the bells and whistles and all the jazz but it will shoo away
> those who need cruise control and other orthopedic devices! (see Porsche !!)
> The spyder drove the prices out the top and drug the coupes with it for
> awhile anyway until the economy took a hit
> And this is the model that cause the horse to shit over 5000 cars per year,
> now everyone can get one!!
> Where is that lurker that said Ferrari would never built over 5000 cars a
> year anyway? Hmm my guess he is at Ferrari of HOUSTON talking out his Cowboy
> HAT!
> He is probably the guy who said Toyota would have the Championship in 3
> years, remember that Bozo? 
> The only Toyota that could do that is Camry with a stuck accelerator!! (bad
> clyde,bad clyde) 
> As with every Ferrari model ever made the end of year run is the one to get,
> personally if I had to go GAY I would get one, but Ferrari is still making
> 12 cyl cars and that's where the REAL MEN hang out!
> Pricing on this carnival ride is hard to pick since there is a slump in the
> economy but my guess is whoresale oops! I mean wholesale is in the low to
> mid six figures.
> The car looks like ODD  OGG half turtle and half frog to me!!
> 
> The 430 is more of the same with regards to the 360 just more HP (like that
> crowd really needs it!) and less 6 speeds out there as well.
> Once again this car put the final crush on the 355 pricing, I mean like a
> Mafia Hit Man!
> It was ugly for those poor soles in 355 land trying get some bread crumbs
> for their car.
> Those guys needed to drive their cars to Louisiana prior to Hurricane
> Katrina and claim a total loss.
> Most of those owners are too scared to drive into the ghetto with the keys
> so they got to go natural disaster!
> What uglier than a 355 leather dash board that has shriveled up? Please
> someone tell me, I gotta know!!
> 
> Now on to the piece de resistance the 458!
> This car even Motor Trend likes , like they really matter about anything in
> the automotive world!
> They picked FORCE INDIA for the F-1 championship!!
> Anyway this car you don't see ever not even the posers have them ( you know
> who you are, the ones with ZYMOL disease from washing and waxing your car)!
> Who owns this car? It's like the NISSAN GTR, never see them only in the show
> room. HMMM
> Speaking of the GTR who's buying a $85K Nissan anyway? 
> You talk about the Japanese not know the market, you think they would have
> learned for HONDA with the lead weight NSX so called Ferrari beater that
> tanked liked Yakamoto did in the Pacific during WW2!
> Anyway back the VONDERCAR 458
> It's a killer ride but at $250k large have you lost your mind!
> Not even DEEEEP POCKET STEVE JENKINS has one of these fly traps!
> I mean if you have $250 large buy a man's car from FERRARI with 4 more
> cylinders! I mean make a statement already not a phone call!
> With all the hype behind this car and the space ship headlights, its going
> hold its head above the water for a while.
> My guess you can get an end of model year one that's on the show room floor
> from any dealer for less than sticker, as the floor plan eats his ass alive
> on the car, don't  you love it!
> 
> That's it for me guys 
> Will post my take on the 12 cylinder market for those out there who want it
> 
> PS.
> 
> Hey if you drive a Mondial/ 348/355 into the forest and you crash it, will
> anyone care? 
> Just a thought!!
> 
> Clyde Romero
> 
> just the right amount of wrong!
> 
> "SCARS ARE TATTOOS WITH BETTER STORIES"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Jenkins [mailto:steve [at] stevejenkins.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:49 PM
> To: Clyde
> Cc: Ferrari List
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need a valuation on my Ferrari...
> 
> I wish I'd been wrong about that when we talked on the phone last, my
> friend. :( 
> 
> Get a good attorney, and just let him/her handle it. And with the soon to be
> ex, just do a LOT of listening, and vent elsewhere. Venting to her will just
> make things worse. I'll be down your way in a few more weeks. Let's get
> together and you can vent to me. :)
> 
> Q: Why don't cannibals eat divorced women?
> 
> A: They're too bitter!
> 
> Attached is a photo of a happier time, bro. :)
> 
> SteveJ
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Conforti [mailto:lndshrk [at] xmission.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:40 PM
> To: Steve Jenkins
> Cc: Ferrari List
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need a valuation on my Ferrari...
> 
> On 11/6/2011 5:13 PM, Steve Jenkins wrote:
>> ...and a cLyDe value? :)
> 
>  Yes, realistic values - not pie-in-the-sky values.
> 
>  My dealer offered me $138 last year w/ 1/2 the miles
>  and a year less age.
> 
>  I can go to him tomorrow and ask for another quote.
> 
>  I know "wholesale" (aka trade-in) will be even less.
> 
>  We were supposed to settle this "amicably and without
>  lawyers".
> 
>  She hired one - she gave this incompetent boob about
>  1% of the pertinent information and he wrote up this
>  divorce filing (and filed it) that a 3rd year pre-law
>  undergrad would tear to shreds.
> 
>  My proposed "amicable" settlement was so generous as
>  to be foolish on my part - but I was doing it for my
>  son - when we're done - she's gonna owe ME money and
>  she has no income - ROFLMAO.
> 
>  Sorry to any females on this list, but:
> 
>  BBC
> 
>  Bitches
>  Be
>  Crazy
> 
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