Ferrari Mailing List: Re: ferrari prices Clydes take on it, its gonna hurt some feelings

[Robert W. Garven Jr. (rgarven]

Clyde,

Glad you didn't had time to review on the GT4!  I really love mine and since it cost less than a brake job on a 458, whats not to love. Plus,  I really like carburetors!

I finally found something on the car I feel I completely understand!  Not sure how it relates to the rest of the car but that's another story!  HA After working on the car for 2 years 

I forgot not only what a blast it is to drive but you almost need a pilots checklist just to get going! It is also not an easy car to drive, heavy clutch, noisy, smelly, but the view out the front

 is awesome. I still think this is the most significant V8, because it was the car that came first

Rob

(GT4 cheering section)

Robert W. Garven Jr.

rgarven [at] gmail.com

 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari

On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:22 PM, clyde romero wrote:

Guys the 328 was no doubt the best 3 series 8 cylinder Ferrari ever built

Pricing got real stupid after the old man died which didn’t help anything when the shit box 348 showed up and the only car that was worst that that car was the mondial!

The 348 is a fat girl in a leather skirt, everyone will look , but going home with her is another story!!

The space shuttle has less service bulletins than the 348 so in reality the 348 doesn’t count along with the Mondial when it comes to pricing 3 series, 8 cylinder models.

Tops price on any of these models regardless of what the Yellow baby shit rag says(aka Ferrari market letter) is $30k.

You are buying 20 to 25 year car or older,, and yes it is what it is!

 

Now we get to the 2^nd 3 series  8 cylinder cars 355/360/430/458

Those who bought in early on the 355 paid thru the nose for this girly car!

Yes Virginia it had power and a automatic gear box!

But wait that’s what made it so damn popular in the first place

Those who now had deep pockets could join us who knew what a clutch was for and now the unwashed was among us in SPADES!

The F-1 gear box opened up the market to any all comers to the prancing horse, even the “P” and BMW crowd showed up when they wanted to get better girlfriends and parking places !

Yes its true!

And when they made the Spyder OMG they really showed up, like mosquitoes in Florida!

But that’s when we found out about the damn seat tracks that would not let the top down, and you could get wet!

Ferrari bought the tope mechanism form MCB but did buy the seat racks which signal the top so there you go!

And the Dealers, Man these guys took these guys for all they were worth, even buying back the first cars and giving those buyers cash and ramping up the prices LARGE and I do mean LARGE

Remember seeing 355 spyders going for $185k back in the day?

What do you think that rage top 355 is worth now?

HUGO pricing comes to mind, and lest not leave out BMW 7 series pricing as well.

Values that have sunk like a stone in a swimming pool!

Those poor souls who spent all that money on a car without traction control and shit seat tracks!!

Lets not mention the valve guide and cracking exhaust flanges !!!

Anyway best price on this cracker would be $ 70k if perfect, but what car is?

Hmmm

 

Now when the 360 came out the it killed the 355 resale hard, this car did not need belt service so right there it was a winner in my book!

And guess what it had traction control(remember you had the “special needs crowd “ now buying the cars with the F-1 tranny)

And they did a pretty good job with the mechanicals over all

But it runs hot because of the intakes to the radiator sooo you don’t see many of them in daylight conditions or in stop in go traffic,

Basically if you can get by the so so styling this is the HONDA of Ferrari 8 cylinders!

Yep I said it

It has all the bells and whistles and all the jazz but it will shoo away those who need cruise control and other orthopedic devices! (see Porsche !!)

The spyder drove the prices out the top and drug the coupes with it for awhile anyway until the economy took a hit

And this is the model that cause the horse to shit over 5000 cars per year, now everyone can get one!!

Where is that lurker that said Ferrari would never built over 5000 cars a year anyway? Hmm my guess he is at Ferrari of HOUSTON talking out his Cowboy HAT!

He is probably the guy who said Toyota would have the Championship in 3 years, remember that Bozo?

The only Toyota that could do that is Camry with a stuck accelerator!! (bad clyde,bad clyde)

As with every Ferrari model ever made the end of year run is the one to get, personally if I had to go GAY I would get one, but Ferrari is still making 12 cyl cars and that’s where the REAL MEN hang out!

Pricing on this carnival ride is hard to pick since there is a slump in the economy but my guess is whoresale oops! I mean wholesale is in the low to mid six figures.

The car looks like ODD  OGG half turtle and half frog to me!!

 

The 430 is more of the same with regards to the 360 just more HP (like that crowd really needs it!) and less 6 speeds out there as well.

Once again this car put the final crush on the 355 pricing, I mean like a Mafia Hit Man!

It was ugly for those poor soles in 355 land trying get some bread crumbs for their car.

Those guys needed to drive their cars to Louisiana prior to Hurricane Katrina and claim a total loss.

Most of those owners are too scared to drive into the ghetto with the keys so they got to go natural disaster!

What uglier than a 355 leather dash board that has shriveled up? Please someone tell me, I gotta know!!

 

Now on to the piece de resistance the 458!

This car even Motor Trend likes , like they really matter about anything in the automotive world!

They picked FORCE INDIA for the F-1 championship!!

Anyway this car you don’t see ever not even the posers have them ( you know who you are, the ones with ZYMOL disease from washing and waxing your car)!

Who owns this car? It’s like the NISSAN GTR, never see them only in the show room. HMMM

Speaking of the GTR who’s buying a $85K Nissan anyway?

You talk about the Japanese not know the market, you think they would have learned for HONDA with the lead weight NSX so called Ferrari beater that tanked liked Yakamoto did in the Pacific during WW2!

Anyway back the VONDERCAR 458

It’s a killer ride but at $250k large have you lost your mind!

Not even DEEEEP POCKET STEVE JENKINS has one of these fly traps!

I mean if you have $250 large buy a man’s car from FERRARI with 4 more cylinders! I mean make a statement already not a phone call!

With all the hype behind this car and the space ship headlights, its going hold its head above the water for a while.

My guess you can get an end of model year one that’s on the show room floor from any dealer for less than sticker, as the floor plan eats his ass alive on the car, don’t  you love it!

 

That’s it for me guys

Will post my take on the 12 cylinder market for those out there who want it

 

PS.

 

Hey if you drive a Mondial/ 348/355 into the forest and you crash it, will anyone care?

Just a thought!!

 

 

 

 

Clyde Romero

 

just the right amount of wrong!

 

"SCARS ARE TATTOOS WITH BETTER STORIES"

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