Phil, Your question reminds me of the guy who pulled alongside me at a stop light a few years ago while I was driving it (with its [unimaginative] vanity plate, "512TR"). He turned to me and said something like "I'd recognize a Testarossa anywhere." (Better than the other guy who asked me, another time, what kind of Lamborghini it was.) Regards, Larry
CC: philville [at] dejazzd.com; ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com From: philville [at] windstream.net Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Likely Future 308 Price Appreciation Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:18:02 -0400 To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com Larry, don't be offended we all love you, BTW, what is a 512 TR? phil
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I'm trying to figure out whether I should be offended by your remark. Larry '92 512TR (my only Ferrari)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:31:15 -0500 From: BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.comSubject: Re: [Ferrari] Likely Future 308 Price Appreciation CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.comTo: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
.... If everyone thought
like you the only Ferrari anyone would own is a 512TR.
Brian
On 9/14/12 2:21 PM, cjromero wrote:
Some idiot with more money than class
Clyde
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A yellow #1 just sold for close to $70K.
There were half as many of these built as F40's.
brian
On 9/14/12 8:30 AM, Jeff Kennedy
wrote:
Here is my take on the hierarchy of the 308 line as
desirability according to the original question:
#1 - Euro Fiberglass - this was the only one that was
dry sump. But only do an unadulterated one that has not
been Federalized, or at least in no discernible way.
#2 - US Fiberglass
Further note on Fiberglass cars - These already trade a
a major premium to the rest of the 308 market. There was
not GTS ever as a fiberglass.
#3 - non cat steel, 1977. If one could come up with a
non-cat GTS that would be special.
#4 - QV. As a durability issue the 1984 and 1985 have
better rust proofing.
Although there are some people that do prefer the
federalized Euro over a US version I do not unless it is
de-converted.
Originality - no aftermarket changes. No color
changes.
GTB vs. GTS - a personal preference issue. GTB
proponents will argue about the lower production rates and
somewhat stiffer body.
Condition - start with the right car don't try
resurrection unless you are a masochist and doing the all
work yourself plus get parts at wholesale.
Mileage - be careful about the low mileage cars. They
could be a bunch more mileage than that if the speedo
cable had been disconnected. Also be real careful that
low mileage (under 30K) is also going to mean that driving
the car will be devaluing it.
So there is my take.
Jeff
From: Larry Bard [mailto:larrybard [at] hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 14 September 2012 7:07
AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Likely Future 308
Price Appreciation
(Yeah,
I know we covet Ferraris because we love them,
not because we think we'll make money if we
ever sell them, but I'm asking for a friend.
Really.)
A friend who is an extremely capable and
experienced mechanic asked me which 308s were
likely to appreciate over the next 10 years or
so. Not being even remotely competent to
answer that question myself, I thought I would
pass it along to this list, whose members
doubtlessly are better able to intelligently
formulate reasonable answers.
The friend who is asking has a very limited
budget, doesn't seem to have performance as
high on his list as most would-be owners
might, likes old classics, and specifically
asked about possible appreciation over
something like the next 10 years. My
guess is that he is in fact far less
interested in the possibility of making any
money, and much more interested in avoiding
any serious loss if he were to buy one and
sell it in about 10 years (though I am
personally inclined to believe that any well
maintained 308 is likely to at least hold its
value over the next 10 years, assuming one
buys it at not too far in excess of the
"Clyde" price).
I know the QVs have always been highly
regarded, but what do all of you think about
specific model years, etc? European 308
GTBi/GTSi QV? Relatively rarer fiberglass
rather than steel? Injection vs. carburetor?
Any words of wisdom I could pass along to my
friend would be greatly appreciated.
Larry
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