Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Here's the new Enzo!

[Michael James (cavallino_rapante]

I thought it funny that the Tools at Car-n-Driver kissed a wall with the 599 press-car because they turned OFF the traction control to get some side-ways drift photos for the magazine and the car's power overcame their 'press-corps' driving abilities.  I told you that these cars were FAR exceeding their buyer's ability to control them, hence the loss of 'soul' with the rise of electronic 'assistance'....paging Eddie Griffin!

 

Its a stretch to call the Enzo a flop - they enthusiastically sold-out the entire line, didn't they?  It was King-of-the-Hill, performance-wise when it debuted.  The 599 GTO was a joke - cool exhaust, minor body-kit tweaks, and a small performance bump?  Please.  The GTO should have been a borderline race/street car, like the all-carbon Glickenhaus machine. 

 

Of all the supercars 'out there', I'd want the F-50.  Normal aspiration, F1 engine, manual transmission, removable roof, and a loud exhaust that spits fire.  Styling?  Ain't nobody confusing the F-50 with the new Mustang, are they?  Perfect!

 

M J

--- On Wed, 3/6/13, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 6, 2013, 10:19 AM

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, cjromero wrote:

Just saw the video

Just what some rich asshole needs a switch in the cockpit to disable all the stability devices of the car so they can slide it

WONDERFUL

Isn't that a good thing? The problem is certain people have bad judgment but you cannot realistically protect every person from themselves.

I propose that the driver aids lend a sense of false confidence/security and you end up with worse accidents and more stupid behavior than before. Like football in the leather helmet days....there was no helmet to helmet missile concussions then like there are now.

 

Where is the James Bond ejection seat so he can leave the car after he jacks it up?

This would be a kin to me disabling the auto pilot on a cat 3 approach

The car was designed by an Italian special needs kid

Huh? 

 

My guess Ferrari eats this one large

Too much magic not enough car

Going green is great but this is over the top and for what?

Keeping up with the P1 and 918. It is what it is -- Ferrari has to market to people who buy on specs and "technology". 

I'd do anything to see a modern F40, but I know that will never happen.

The F50 was a flop and so was the ENZO,599 and the FF shit box and let us not forget the 4 seat boat anchor

F50 I've heard good things. Problem is the car is a ton of money for not a ridiculous amount of power, but driving feel is supposed to be outstanding .

Agree with Enzo. 599 too except the GTO. The rest of the lineup isn't destined to be legendary Ferraris but that's ok I guess. 

Still waiting for a true TR replacement after all these years. 550 ain't it. 

An interesting thing has happened since the 360 came out -- superior technical ferraris with less inspired "souls". The Gallardo came out and Ferrari could no longer sell 200 hp entry level cars any longer. Engines really ramped up in power, and handling/aero tech went through the roof. The fanboys got their bragging rights but the cars were more sterile.

A case of performance and feel being mutually exclusive? Don't think so but it's been that way for some time now. 

When Pinn died the marketing people did as well

All of you out there with 12 cylinder cars buy the extra parts now like have

Drive wheels off the cars

Get 550/575 and keep them because these were the last of the real super cars that looked like something not like a nightmare

Because even if you make stupid Bill Gates type money the last series of Ferraris are looking like Nissan GTRâs another shit box of a car

Oh yea while I am at

Whoâs the lister that said the GTR was going to be the car of cars ?

Dealers are eating those cars like bad sandwiches at a wedding they did want to go to!

You sure about that? I'm hearing the opposite quite frankly. Who doesn't have a GTR these days is the question. I'm not suggesting these cars are selling over MSRP, but they are pretty popular for what you can do to them in the aftermarket. 

The only car that has a worse resale value is the latest BMW M6

 

Clyde in St. Barths

Au revior

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Gary Reed [mailto:gary [at] garyreedsales.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:52 AM
To: cjromero
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!

 

http://youtu.be/iRsV6YpLsKA

 

Here's a video of it.

 

Gary

 

----- Original Message -----

From: cjromero

To: Gary Reed

Cc: 'The FerrariList'

Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:42 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!

 

It looks like and NSX on steroids

So jacked up

Only pimps would own it

 

Clyde

 

 

From: Adam Green [mailto:FlatCrank [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:17 AM
To: Clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!

 

http://www.laferrari.com/en/

 

It's an impressive machine, but not my cup of tea.  A sort of "if the 458 isn't enough" design.  Some of the profiles are beautiful, some of it looks like a McLaren 12C.  I could do without th

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