Re: Here's the new Enzo!
From: Martin Stark (mstarkcopper.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:33:01 -0800 (PST)
Where 'out-west' are you?

On 3/7/2013 12:13 PM, Michael James wrote:
When do you come 'out-west', Martin? We need to go for a drive sometime...
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--- On Thu, 3/7/13, Martin Stark <mstark [at] copper.net> wrote:

From: Martin Stark <mstark [at] copper.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Thursday, March 7, 2013, 11:25 AM

Bought my '87 TR in 1997 with 6K miles then. I try to drive it as much as possible but New England winters conspire against me. I guess you're tiring of your 512TR too since you are in search of a 550/575. Meteorlogical spring is March 1st in the Boston area. Some snow today, but expecting low 50's this weekend that hopefully will melt the snow pack from the big February storms.

On 3/7/2013 10:31 AM, cjromero wrote:

Yes SBH is nice we have been coming since â94

The Cape is on my bucket list

Smart move with the tires

And 2nd gear is usually what goes first

How many miles did you have on the car when you bought it?

I forgot what year yours is

My buddy is selling his 92 512 TR

I went thru it

Itâs nice but he is tired of it

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Take care

Talk to you soon

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How cold is it up there in Boston now?

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From: Martin Stark [mailto:mstark [at] copper.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:21 AM
To: Clyde
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!

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Yesterday was rough. Had to say goodbye to Natasha (1996-2013) - best dog I'll ever have. Been through it three times before and it doesn't get any easier.

I replaced the crown gear carrier as a pm measure when repairing a (my)self inflicted wound to the first gear pair. That was about three years ago and the TR had about 32K miles then. It was running Pilot Sport 295 18's in the rear and the combination of wide sticky rubber and a damp washboard on ramp conspired against it. Now running PS2's and being very careful to avoid similar situations.Â

I'm in the process of buying a place in SW FL so you'll have your choice of Cape Cod or FL. We haven't been back to the Cape since last year when we hosted a Thanksgiving feast there about 200 yds. from where the Pilgrims first set foot in 1620.Â

You must be getting close to the point when the airlines and the FAA conspire retirement against those of a certain age. I hear St. Barts is a very very nice spot.

On 3/7/2013 7:50 AM, cjromero wrote:

Martin hope you are doing well

This is not aimed at you in the least and you know that

This is for the rest of the list

How many miles did your car have on it when it went south?

Clyde

PS. I know you are on the CAPE must visit some time

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I have 97K plus miles on my 512 TR

With no issues in the gear box what so ever

Every failure that I have known about comes from the idiot driver thinking he is in a 5.0 Mustang coming off of stop light drag racing!

You must remember the input shaft on this car is around 2â max and the tires are huge so something has to give

Everyone who has owned a TR that I have known bought it used

And when they did the jerk before them did not know how to drive the car

Hence you see Clutch replaced at so and so miles

Well what do you think was attached to the damn clutch?

Ask Phil who is on the list when the series 1 TR came out people sued dealerships to get them (he worked for a major dealer in the Philly area)

Baseball players got them for signing bonuses, the idiot with the bad hair Trump had one, what does that tell you!

The car at its peak was bringing Â$250K stupid money

So who do you think drove those cars ?

So you buy used TR with low miles that has a transaxle that you canât see into but he itâs got a new clutch what could go wrong!

Every f*cking thing!

Oh and it was during the go go late 80âs after the old man died when 308âs were being sold by Brian for $80K (he told them it would never go down in price)

Here is the cliff notes on the TR and you take this from someone who has done a couple of transaxles for friends

If you buy a car that has a clutch replaced or second gear and or second gear syncros replaced take a minimum $25k off the price

If you donât you will be adding that to the price later on just like a lister did a while back

Or you can save yourself a bundle and call ME !

Gotta go the beach is calling

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From: Martin Stark [mailto:mstark [at] copper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:41 PM
To: Clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Here's the new Enzo!

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If you look on Ferrarichat you'll find multiple crown gear carrier (transaxle) failures. I replaced mine with a one-piece unit from Newman a few years back. (Peace of mind.)

On 3/6/2013 7:29 PM, Fellippe Galletta wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Maintenance and the brakes weren't so great.

I've heard about the transaxle but the 5 TR owners I know personally have never had any issues after a decade or more of driving.

20k range was a prediction from 10 yrs ago..still staying strong in the $50k range for a decent one.

512BBi was ok...carbed versions much better.

All great cars...splitting hairs here.

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Well said.

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BTW, I believe the automatic belts was a 512 TR thing only.....not sure if all years.Â

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