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From: Brian E. Buxton (BrianBuxtonBuxtonMotorsports.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:46:35 -0700 (PDT)

Larry,
High performance tires aren't just for auto crosses or DE events. That's like saying you don't need to eat healthy or watch your weight because you aren't a pro athlete. High performance tires are high performance in everyday life. They give you better traction in case you need to make evasive maneuvers, they give you shorter stopping distances, and they have better road holding abilities. I am a big believer in buying the best you can - esp with tires. M+S (mud and snow) tires and the "all-season" tires are, in my opinion, poor choices for any car. Do you think it's possible to make a tire that excels in both mud and snow? Or that is a good tire in the dry / wet / snow, etc.? Those tires excel at nothing and are average at everything. You need the best performance you can get in every situation - which is a dedicated set of tires for summer and a dedicated set for winter. Even if you have a 4-wheel drive truck or SUV, or an AWD car. You may be able to "go" well with those vehicles, but turning and stopping all depend on grip, which comes from your tires (the stock tires that came with H2 Hummers from the factory are notoriously horrible in the snow but are great offroad). It's no accident that F1 cars have different tires for wet & dry tracks. All of this may sound silly, but the extra ability to maneuver could keep you out of an accident or from hitting something that falls off a truck or that is in the road. And the extra 3-5 feet of stopping power may keep you from hitting a child or the car in front of you. You can have the best handling car with the most up to date suspension and the biggest brakes made, but the only thing that connects all that to the ground is your tires.

Brian

On 4/14/13 1:35 PM, LarryT wrote:

Hi Michael,
I usually buy all season M+S. Since I don't do DEs I don't buy high performance tires. The 911 is rated for V and the MB is H IIRC. For me, Z's would be overkill.

I was concerned you were implying Costco was selling Seconds or Blemished tires...

LarryT

On 4/14/2013 8:20 AM, Michael James wrote:
You are buying cost-conscious street-tires that 'fit' at Costco, not High-Performance Z-rated tires, correct?

M J

--- On Fri, 4/12/13, LarryT <L02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:
From: LarryT <L02turner [at] comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CostCo Tires WAS ** Ferrari] CAR PRICES AND RESTORATION ***
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Friday, April 12, 2013, 2:06 PM
I'm with you Matt - I've bought a lot of tires there and always had great service from them.

LarryT

On 4/12/2013 9:11 AM, Matt Boyd wrote:
Adam,

What's wrong with Costco tires?

-Matt.... who buys all his tires from Costco...

On Apr 11, 2013 1:53 PM, "Adam Green" <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I've never understood the appeal of the SuperAmerica.

I think of it as the "Only in America."

The thing with 575's now is, just try to find a really great one.

I was on the fence about color (wanted black cabin over red body) and found a perfect black over black at the local dealer at a "this is not worthy of our illustrious showroom" price for it to be dispensed to the great unwashed. It was missing a few "very nice to have's" like some documentation and details, it wasn't ready to be driven, it was looking a little scruffy underneath and the engine bay had already been "detailed" (spit) so there no way to eyeball its mechanical condition. Plus, I'm not someone to just say "Oh, $100K, I'll just pay the money and take my chances."

I took maybe 10 hours overnight to come back and see it again (you know how your eyes "see" a car in more detail the second or third time.) Sure enough, not just sold, it was sold and being picked up that morning. Someone smarter than me knew what they were looking at. Grumble, grumble. Another "one that got away" story in a very thick book of memoirs ...

But seriously, $60K for a 575? I mean a decent one, not auction block fodder with CostCo tires, Jiffy Lube receipts, 10 owners and 70 entries in the carfax.

Adam

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:49 AM, cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

The 550/575 are already there

Pay no more than $60 k

That's the wholesale on the car

You can even see the ruling class on the superamerica getting religion

There are 9 of then for sale now in the US

Can you imagine having paid $500k for a car and cannot get even a paltry $200 K for it now

Talk about Ferrari hype

Clyde

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