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Re: Listmember Goes Crazy or not...
From: Robert W. Garven Jr. (rgarvengmail.com)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 20:05:35 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Ferrari List Friends,

Thanks for all your posts. I am only interested in a 1975 or older model. I know there many newer models that would be fun an are cool but 
this is chance in a lifetime for me for a vintage Ferrari.  I know the restoration/rebuilding cost are huge, that is why I am willing to pay top value for 
a car that has been already restored and or maintained at this level. I also have been around these cars for a while and do know that it is the wisest 
thing to is buy the most car you can afford. My budget will be inline with the Cavallino values listed below. I am also looking for a car with all tools 
and books as my car has and as all Ferrari should have. I think it is criminal that any of these cars are missing these items....

My GT4 is a collector car which I only drive on the weekends, never in rain, wind, dust, fog, traffic etc. I am looking for a car for similar pursuits, with 
the most outlandish being a drive up the coast a few hundred miles to Monterrey. It is never hot or cold here and has not rained all year long so if I 
can find a nice example it will be loved until passed on to its next caretaker.

In the last Forza issue a local FCA member bought a decent 365 2+2 for 95K with a rebuilt engine and spent 110K and 18 months to get it to platinum 
level standard and win at the FCA Nationals. His car was repainted, new interior etc., at all the most expensive shops. This is the type of car I am looking 
for and once again hoping for all of your experience to help me locate and or evaluate some examples.

Cavallino Magazine lists the values for the 365 2+2 as 110 to 185K, and the 365 GTC4 as 110 to 190K. I am curious as to what current or 
previous owners of theses models think about these prices. 

Here is a car in Montreal which looks nice but also has some scary bits to it. 

And here is a almost perfect looking C4 in the wrong color!

Thanks again to all I welcome your comments and or advice. I can also be privately emailed.

Rob


Robert W. Garven Jr.


 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari







On May 1, 2013, at 12:59 AM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

I am seriously thinking about adding a 12 cylinder car to my garage. I have had an almost perfect GT4 for 20 years. I always wanted a 365 GTB4 but with prices beyond my reach I have settled on a range of vehicles I am considering. I will not be able to make the purchase for about 4 to 6 months but want to start looking. I have spent 20 years getting my GT4 perfect and getting to old to do this again, so I am looking for a car with all tools , books, records, history, etc basically a platinum level car or as close to it as i can afford. I have lots of experiences with minor services but want a car that is as close to perfect as can be. I have studied the market prices and would be willing to pay the fair price for the right car. All of these except the 365BB have a top price of 200K or under in Cavallino. I know many think this index is inflated but for a good car I think the top range is about correct. FWIW a 246 sold for 450K last year which is insane. 

I have contacted Phil to help me but thought if any of you knows of a car available or coming available to pass it on to me. I talked to other list members who have highly recommended the 365 GT 2+2. I also talked to my Dino's previous owners and he had one also and liked it. He also told me never to sell the GT4 as it was one of his favorite Ferrari's he ever had and wished he had not sold it to me. By the way my Dino turned 38 04-28-13. If I was smart I would retire, travel, remodel but cant afford to retire so if I have to work till I die might as well have 2 horses in the barn! This is a once in a lifetime chance for me so wish me luck. I have never had a bad experience with my GT4 so hoping that my born on the same day Dino Ferrari passed luck prevails! I am partial to red/black or tan with alloy wheels. 

The 365 BB would be easiest for me to own as my car has very similar components, and to me this is styling perfection, easy engine access etc.. The only downside is no storage space and need an engine out belt change which would only be hard as I have limited garage space.

I would love a GTC4 as I am a carb junkie and love the sound and extra space, but worried about the complexity of the components. Is it true it needs an engine out to change the water pump? Would love to work on those carbs!!!!

The 365 GT 2+2 has always been a favorite of mine as the styling was taken from the 330 speciale and Superfasts which I adore.  I measured this will just fit in my garage if I move a bunch of Ferrari stuff!

After watching Ferrari's for 40 years I am sure if I wait the right car will come up. I just wanted to give you all the heads up because I feel we all are brothers am hoping if someone knows a car similar to my desires they might point them my way. The car has to be a 1975 or earlier as they are smog exempt in CA. I already have seen a few carb BB I like but they all came after that fateful date, plus I think I need an older car since the GT4 is already kind of like a race car (to me). Conditions on the ground may change but this is my plan, and I am usually know for following through. My only fear is the market will move before I am ready........

I bet you guys cant wait to walk me through fixing those self leveling shocks!  HAAAAAAA


Sincerely,

Rob

here is my post on fchat with pics

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4-sponsored-redline-restorations/405996-looking-perfect-gtc4-365-gt2-2-365bb.html


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Robert W. Garven Jr.


 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari







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