Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Horsepower - LNFC

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Barry Goldwater, and yes, Clyde "the glide" is a bit young for that crowd...

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Clyde makes an important point here.

Add to that:

Discretion, being the better part of valor....  

when it was prudent to put the enemy on your six, the P38 had the speed get you out of trouble too.

So Kelly Johnson's early genius gave the Lightning a Trifecta - firepower, durability and speed.

side note: Maj Bong lost his life not in combat but testing one of the early Lockheed Jets - P80 - on the day we bombed Hiroshima.

Bonus points:  Who was Richard Bong's flight instructor??  No, it wasn't Clyde, he's not that old.  ;-)

Rick

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From: cjromero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 3:42:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Horsepower - LNFC

No it was 2 engines 

Which made all the difference in survivability in combat

Clyde 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2013, at 11:04 PM, "Mark" <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:

Yes, interestingly, 3 of the top 10 WWII aces flew P-38s – that straight ahead concentrated nose firepower was hell on the receiving end…..

 

Name                              Branch                     Total Victories             Aircraft

 

Richard Bong             US Army Air Force                 40                      P-38 Lightning

Thomas McGuire       US Army Air Force                 38                     P-38 Lightning (Killed in action)

David McCampbell     US Navy                                  34                      F6F Hellcat

Gregory Boyington     US Marine Corps                   28                      F4U Corsair

Francis Gabreski         US Air Force                           28                      Spitfire / P-47 Thunderbolt

Robert Johnson           US Army Air Force                28                      P-47 Thunderbolt

Charles MacDonald    US Army Air Force                 27                      P-38 Lightning

Joseph Foss                  US Marine Corps                    26                      F4F Wildcat

George Preddy              US Air Force                           26                      P-51 Mustang (Killed in action)

Robert Hanson             US Marine Corps                   25                      F4U Corsair (Killed in action)

Lance Wade                  Royal Air Force*                    25                      Spitfire (Killed in action)

 

 

From: Larry T [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:00 PM
To: Mark
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Horsepower - LNFC

 

The superchargers were so advanced the Brass worried about them falling into enemy hands if shot down.    Luckily not many were sot down.   IIRC the P38 was used mostly for recon in Europe to minimize the chance of P38s being lost so their wreckage could be recovered.   Much less likely to be recovered if lost in the Pacific.   I believe R Bong (USAA Top Ace in Pacific) flew P38s at least partly. 

LarryT

On 5/18/2013 4:46 PM, David wrote:

Yeah – the twin boom design with the joining stabilizer was cutting edge – especially for pilots who ejected.

 

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From: Doug and Terri Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:32 AM
To: David
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Horsepower - LNFC

 

Coool

 

Yeah – that ol’ P38 had a lot of teething problems but once the problems were defined and fixed – it spelled the end for ol’ Yamamoto when he was flying about in the Solomon’s.

 

DOUG

 

Question – where are the throttles?  I sat in a P51 one time and was surprised to see the throttle was about left shoulder height and looked like a motorcycle foot peg.

 

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From: Mark [mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:34 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Horsepower - LNFC

 

So, there I was, talking at the airshow with the Yanks museum(amazing) manager in Chino, and next thing I know…. I’m sitting in 3500HP of machine which could belch up 20mm cannon fire, while burping 4x50cal machine guns.  After waiting for 25yrs for this moment of aileron, rudder and stabilizer moving chills, I have to admit, I always wanted a 57 Testerossa or a 62 250 Cal Spyder, but REALLY want a P-38 J

 

Forza!

Mark Lueker

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