Re: Engine swaps
From: Larry T (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:07:02 -0700 (PDT)
With current govt regulations we'll never see another car like this Maserati 300S - yes, I know it's a race car but even race cars have been restricted - noise levels, etc - this is a drop dead gorgeous car!

http://www.replicarz.com/1956-Maserati-300S-red/productinfo/CMC105/

And yes, I also know it's a 1:18 model....  I'm a sucker for models....

LarryT


On 9/13/2013 1:12 PM, Erik Nielsen wrote:
Yet one more reason to live in fly over country. 
 
Only motor swap I really considered was a AMG V12 for my R107.  Stuck with stock as I didn't think I was a better engineer than the guys at Daimler...

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:
I would think you would have trouble getting it licensed in Ca and the other states who follow their leader...
They don't like to see stuff that's Different.

Larry

On 9/13/2013 8:34 AM, Phil wrote:
Larry brings up a level of govt. intervention that impacts engine swaps, any one have any insight into what we can and can not do ( legally ) as in ( just as an example ) taking a Mondial 8 with a used up motor and putting in a GM 3.8 from ( not that I think it could be done) something like a Buick GS ( for example). ?
With a question like this, I suppose I may be asked to leave the list. Just curious (really).


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On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

The 914s Mid engine offered great performance but the 944/968 had an amazing suspension - but they can always use more hp.   As you said 600hp -- hmmmm.... and bigger tires of course ..... and LSD (as in limited slip - not the Timothy Leary stuff)

I like to call it ingenuity -- and many of these swaps have ended up giving many memorable vehicles.  but it all  depends on your POV.   We seem to have lost much of the innovation that was evident in the 50s and 60s when the govt started requiring more and more modifications. 

LarryT

On 9/12/2013 5:15 PM, LS wrote:
The GM LS V8 is a popular swap as it is smaller and lighter than the stock Porsche powerplant.

600hp would be fun in a 914...might want a stiff rollcage to keep the car from turning into wet newspapers.
 



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From: Larry T <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine swaps

Hi Doug,
The june issue of R&T contains a great series of articles in memory of the 50th Anniv of the 911.  One was rare photos showng all the special vehicles
created by Porsche and never scrapped, sold, whatever.  the 4 dr 911 for there's also a V8 911 meant to be between the Turbo and 959 until it died a quiet death.    The engne compartment was pretty full!!  They kept all kinds of Porsche's there -- some cut models showing various inside details, etc.  cool stuff...But the 48 911 was impressive!

LarryT

On 9/12/2013 10:24 AM, Doug & Terri wrote:
Engine swaps nil? 
 
Picture this – 1980 at a big autocross site on a Navy base in Long Beach Calif.  Even enough room for a drag strip.  Here I was treated to my first visual lie.  “Visual Lie”?  Ayep – I saw a red 911 Porsche and heard a Corvette.  Rump rump rump.  Turns out a 911 engine and all its stuff is just about as heavy as a Chevy small block.  Only advantage is escaping the $15 to $20,000 911 engine rebuild.  
 
That may have been the only Visual Lie as far as Porsche’s go that I have seen BUT that said, the ultimate Visual Lie was a VW Bug body dropped on a mid-60’s Indy race car chassis.  Saw a VW bug with a cover over the passenger seats, with pretty meaty tires.  Otherwise, pretty stock looking.  Down to the two exhausts pipe where a Bug’s pipe peek out of the rear body under the bumper.  Saw that with Ferrari Willi at Riverside Int Raceway at a USRRC final race in, oh, about 1967-8.  Car recently surfaced in Hot VW’s.  At the time we saw it turns out it belonged to Paul Newman.  I think.
 
Onward
 
DOUG
 
From: Rick [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:34 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Engine swaps
 
Hello Friends,
 
I'm just back from Pennsylvania where I attended the Radnor Hunt Concours with Phil Tegtmeyer. Not a single engine swap on the show field. Lots of classics though.
 
Pretty hard to believe how cavalier we talk about swapping engines in a Rolls or Bentley. After all, the engine is the heart of that (or any) car! Perhaps we should ask a Spitfire pilot if they'd prefer a Chevy lump over that Merlin? Or maybe a 427 in place of that high maintenance V12 in the Daytona? 
 
With all that said, I must confess. In my even-more-stupid youth, I once put a Chevy engine in a Jaguar Mk II. It did run kinda-okay but sounded like an Impala. Sold the bastardized Jag for $1500. The buyer had a 3.8 liter XJ engine ready to retrofit.
 
Engine swaps are bad. If all you want is 'go', buy a Corvette and keep your classic unmolested. 
 
2 cents please.
 
-rick
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