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Re: Ferrari Backed over
From: LS (lashdeepyahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT)


'What is more interesting to me is the validity of the opinions of the critics on any Ferrari, most can't even afford a belt change, let alone the total cost of ownership.  Dealers will tell you anything to move inventory or get you to order something that helps their allocation. "

Erik has made a critical observation. Always remember that *most* journalists reviewing cars are writers. They are generally not:

1. The target financial demographic of the exotic being reviewed
2. Engineers
3. Good drivers

By most of their logic, a 3 series BMW is the greatest thing ever created by humans. It is probably the most exciting car they could pass by the wife without getting beaten by her.

Save for some of the brilliance provided by guest writers (Phill Hill, Paul Frere, Sam Posey, etc.), a magazine/auto blog/newspaper exotic car review is typically written for the general public who does not share our passion for cars.

So...enjoy those tests/reviews for reference specifications and to be thankful that we have regular access to the cars that some of these guys would only dream of!

LS




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From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over

What is more interesting to me is the validity of the opinions of the critics on any Ferrari, most can't even afford a belt change, let alone the total cost of ownership.  Dealers will tell you anything to move inventory or get you to order something that helps their allocation.  

Just remember, the F50 was this guy's vision on what a Ferrari should be. 


On Nov 1, 2013, at 11:40 PM, "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

Heh heh â as far as the child safety seats go â Iâm with ya.  BUT that said, the ownerâs manual does devote two pages to âchild safety restraints.â  It includes how to set it up and why there is a manual belt on the passenger side.  Covers size, weight, height â commands reader to read the seats manual etc.  alas.
 
Could a kid tolerate the noise?  Again â Iâm with ya.  But one thing for sure â in a long trip an adult passenger is bound to lose a filling or two due to terminal vibration.  My guess is that a person riding a â47 spring Harley can ride further per day than a passenger in an F50.  Just my take.  As a driver?  Iâll take it from Los Angeles to New York.  Yeeee hah
 
DOUG
 
 
From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 5:05 PM
To: Doug & Terri
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over
 
It's funny how the 'critics' all panned the F-50, but one just set a record-price at auction for $1.5MIL a few months back.  Let's see - stick-shift, check.  Mid-engine Formula 1 V-12, check.  Removable roof, check.  Two seats and nuthin' else - check.  REAL Pininfarina styling - check.  Bad-azz noise in the back, check.  RARE - check.....hangs with the F-40 on the track - check.  Of course the critics panned it - it wasn't a BMW 3 series.
 
Child safety seat?  Uh - HELL no.  I doubt little kids would tolerate the noise, the heavy acceleration, the hard braking, rough ride, etc.  Might as well put a child safety seat in a Lotus 7.  Yea, that will work-out well....
 
On Friday, November 1, 2013 3:38 PM, Doug & Terri <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
>> M J notes âPeople WANT to haul their children, . . .â
 
The Ferrari F50 devotes several pages to how to correctly fasten a child seat to the passenger seat.
 
Never can tell when mama may want to use the car to get a quart of milk.
 
DOUG
 
From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 11:58 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over
 
But you don't understand......there are buyers (whom Ferrari is courting) who WANT these 4-seat, all-wheel-drive, Italian-Mercedes hatchbacks.  People WANT to haul their children, the dog, skiis, beach chairs, coolers, etc. in their $300K+ Ferrari during a Nor'Easter snowstorm in the Poconos.....because they want to.  So, naturally, Ferrari had to build "them" a car.....and here we are.
 
M J
 
 
From: Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com>
To: Michael <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over
 
That is a shocking photo.  It must have been a heart attack for the "professional" (where&apos;s reverse on this thing?) driver.
I think everyone has the same reaction though:  lucky break for the owner to have an easy out of the FFugly, just write it off to insurance and you&apos;re free and clear to go get an Aston Rapide or just get a Range Rover if you want four-up motoring in a prestige land yacht weighing a couple of tons.

Adam
 
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
Wrong link again...I see a delivery truck backing over a grey station wagon with nice wheels and brakes.

Or am I missing something?

LS
 
 
 
central
wines-spirits   est 1934
 
625 e street nw
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202-737-2800
 
 
 
From: Les Thompson <les21 [at] ix.netcom.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:32 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over
 
Full link:
-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Savard
Sent: Oct 31, 2013 5:25 PM
To: Les Thompson
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over
Can you tell us what the article is about. The link is broken or no longer exists.
Thank you!
Michael Savard
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] Ferrari Backed over
 
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