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Re: Lotus Europa
From: Clyde Romero (clyderomerof4bellsouth.net)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 20:51:44 -0700 (PDT)
Yes on the V8


Clyde Romero

In Victory you deserve Champagne
In Defeat You Need It!






On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:50 PM, "Grahame Reinthal" <grahame [at] reinthal.com.au> wrote:

Mid-engine, of course!!! My bad… geez, I’m getting old! Brain fade as I typed wrong engine location and then and conceptualised handling based on that, but right car… there was a V8 version…

 

From: Clyde Romero [mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 12:04 PM
To: Grahame Reinthal
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lotus Europa

 

Uh 

You have the wrong car

The Europa had the engine mid chassis 

Clyde Romero

 

In Victory you deserve Champagne

In Defeat You Need It!

 

 








On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:56 PM, "Grahame Reinthal" <grahame [at] reinthal.com.au> wrote:

Ah, Europas - they were a challenge to be in for any length of time for anyone but pygmys. They were quick due to being so light, despite the small Renault motor. And there was also a version which had the Rover/Buick 3.5 litre chucked into it. Not sure what that did to the handling with that extra weight up front, and I never went in one, but I’m told they went like the proverbial!

 

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+grahame=reinthal.com.au [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Robert W. Garven Jr.
Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2014 11:27 AM
To: Grahame
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Lotus Europa

 

Rick,

 

Did you enjoy the Europa. I had a boss who had one and he gave me a ride. I remember it was pretty cool car. I wish I had one

just to tool around in!

 

Rob

 

 

Robert W. Garven Jr.







 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari







 





 

On Jun 18, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

 

You are wrong...  I owned a Europa after Canoe U.   It was like "Laying" in one of those...  or perhaps "reclining" in one of those...

 

In NO way could that position ever be considered "sitting"

 

Otherwise, as usual, you are right.

 

Rick  

 

From: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Custom Ferrari F12 TRS

 

The Aston Martin was the UK attempt at making a Ferrari British 

Failed miserably other than the fact it was always broken could not find parts etc that's where it was a lot like an early Ferrari

 

The Lotus Europa was UK version of the Chevy Corvette 

Fiberglass body which leaked and extremely poor quality control

Unique body style but that's it 

It was like sitting in one of those things that the dealers use at a black jack table  to deal cards with wheels! 

Tell me I am wrong 

 

Clyde Romero

 

In Victory you deserve Champagne

In Defeat You Need It!

 

 

 

 

 


On Jun 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Clyde,

 

You crack me up. Thats  definitely one for the next mug!

 

There was the aston martin DB5 and the lotus elan and europa?

 

 

 

 

Robert W. Garven Jr.







 "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few." Enzo Ferrari







 

 

 

On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

 

Bentley just means

I could not afford a Rolls!

Please 

You would be better off starting a fire with hundred dollar bills then buying that British Shit box it is an over priced Rover !

 

The only thing that was worth a damn that came out of the UK was the Spitfire in WW2 

Clyde Romero

 

In Victory you deserve Champagne

In Defeat You Need It!

 

 

 

 

 


On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I've seen a "team" of stripper Bentleys at Laguna.  Talk about shock and awe.  One of them still had the full leather cabin and good lord, it was a gorgeous machine.  Windows down, cabin layered in dust.  The drivers were stout fellows.  The radiant heat of the front brake rotors was too hot to stand near it in shorts.  The road going version is 4800lbs ... ? ... I get queasy trying to drive anything over 3000lbs and even that is tipping the scales on the luxo-barge end of the spectrum. : )


Adam

 

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

More my cup of tea (also released to the public today):

 

 

I even like the "living green" trim...

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Adam Green <FlatCrank [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Completely over the top, but that's the intent of these trophy horses.  Not my cup of tea.  In the US market, well, I guess it's cruel, but it looks like a Corvette prototype not destined for market production.

Interestingly enough the 650S is quicker than the F12.  The forthcoming Z06 has more torque than the F12.  What will the ZR1 produce?

I thought the F12 was completely over the top.  Who can drive these things?


Adam

 

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

"The first alleged images of a one-off Ferrari called F12 TRS have surfaced on the web. The car was built at the request of a wealthy collector whose identity remains unknown.

Designed by the automaker's Special Projects Division, the F12 TRS is based on the F12berlinetta coupe but it gains a targa roof, heavily-tinted windows and a more shapely rear end. The front fascia is fitted with a race-inspired splitter, and the car appears to wear bespoke alloy wheels.

The F12 TRS is reportedly powered by a gasoline-electric hybrid drivetrain consisting of a 729-horsepower 6.2-liter V12 engine that works jointly with a Formula 1-inspired Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) made up of an electric motor and a high-capacity battery pack. Not available on the stock F12, the hybrid system is expected to propel the F12 TRS from zero to 62 mph in under 3 seconds and on to a top speed of over 210 mph.

Sources indicate the F12 TRS cost its owner $4.2 million, considerably more than even the range-topping ThethetheFerrari. The car will remain an exclusive one-off and it will not be added to the Ferrari catalog.

Ferrari is expected to publish a full set of details about the F12 TRS once the roadster has been delivered."

 

FG approves of this design.

 

For $4.2 million, I just hope it sounds better than anything Ferrari has ever made. Based on the current F12/599 GTO offerings, I think it might be.

 

FG

 

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