Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Partial FC: Ferrari motors in random cars

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Working in the field, I can tell you that to do a proper one off, supported by real engineering and sorting as opposed to taking the bitsa approach of ordering catalog parts that may or not be compatible, you're really looking at about a $4mil project to get it right. Incremental unit costs decrease quickly after that.

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On Jul 20, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

What you are proposing is a nightmare

It's not just the engine 

Remember weight is an issue here are well 

Guys put V8s in Jags back in the day and the car handled like a Kmart shopping cart with a bad wheel!

(Do they even have K Marts over there in Europe?)

Don't even mention the rest of the shit that goes with a Frankenstein implant on a car like electrics and all.

These are called PRISON PROJECTS for a reason because in prison you nothing but time on your hands!

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On Jul 20, 2014, at 4:50 AM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I've always had this idea but it's grown as of late staring into a late Indian Ocean sunset....and then I saw a thread on Ferrari Chat recently about a guy on ebay stocked with NOS Ferrari crate motors....

I see these Caterhams.....such cool cars, typical curb weight around 1000-1300 lbs, but always with a motorcycle motor or a small 4 cylinder turbo. That's fine in itself, and probably what I'd have anyways.

But what if one dropped a Dino 206/246 motor in there? How cool would that be? 160-200 hp would be great so long as it didn't weigh a whole lot. I can't imagine a Dino powered Caterham weighing more than 1500 lbs.

I know what you're thinking.....there are other motors that make more sense in terms of weight, power, reliability. Of course....but this is an F motor we're talking about! The most important part of a Ferrari. :)

The firing order of the Dino V6 is similar to the V12.....they sound like mini V12s, no? hehe. 

Originally the idea came from seeing Elises with the plebian Celica motor.....and I remembered that the Dino motor went into the lighter Stratos for nice results. Caterhams weighing about 1000 lbs less than an Elise probably makes even more sense.

Just have to figure out what transmission to put in, and make that work. Not sure if the mid to front engine deal would be an issue. Maybe go all out and get that Dino transmission in there, with the gated shifter too!

And as expensive as Dinos are these days to buy as a whole car, I can't imagine the crate motor being any more expensive than it was a few years ago.

Of course once you are braced and accepting of this idea, the next level is to source an NOS 166 Mille Miglia V12, and do the same thing. LOL.

I've limited the displacement to around 2.5 liters, but if you feel we can go bigger and still be ok I'm fine with it. :)

All of this has to be better than a V12 in a Jeep Wagoneer....

FG

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