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Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 97, Issue 28
From: Clyde Romero (clyderomerof4bellsouth.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 02:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
Call me anytime 
Those who have met me can tell you that I am true as it gets and call it the way I see it
Your 308 is the way I had mine 
Should have never sold it 
It was a 84 308 GTB QV 
Put over 135K on it when I sold it
Never left me anywhere 
And it was a B not a pop top girly car!
As for the F4 flying it was the toughest and baddest airplane I ever flew
Turned JP4 into noise !!!
Ole Double Ugly was the last plane with balls!
No women flew it!
Gotta go turn a wheel
All the best and drive the paint off the car 
That's what they were made for not to show off!!!



In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

     

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you follow all the rules
You miss all the fun! 

Clyde Romero
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On Aug 17, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Dennis Burleson <d_burles [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:

In regard to the vast and varied list of owners, collectors, drivers, speculators, "Q-tip" concours presenters, et al:

Many years ago, an employer of mine owned a 1964 Corvair, which his wife had purchased new and driven to college. Circa 1982, the owner/husband decided to refresh the car. First came the engine rebuild. Then the new paint and interior. Then a new convertible top. Many hours of detail work and the car became a high 90s point car on the concours circuit. No more road miles; every time the car left the garage, it was on the roll back, headed for a show. Nice car, but now a fixture.

As I am currently involved in a mechanical "restoration" of a 1985 Qv, I know that the minor dents and dings will allow me to continue to drive the car. If you get them too perfect, then the car becomes a "work of art." If I want something to look at, I suppose I should buy a Picasso. I think that Enzo Ferrari meant for his cars to be driven. Just my opinion.

PS: Greetings to Clyde. I am not too far away from sportclassiccomp. Wade says you're a good guy, you've just got a chip on your shoulder. I'm not gonna knock it off, I think that what you have to say about Ferrari automobiles is the bitter truth. My in-laws live in Roswell; I'll try to catch up with you one day. My hat's off to you--F4 pilot in Nam; that's badass.

Regards to all F-listers:
DB


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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Other Pebble Beach Ferrari auction results (John Ashburne)
  2. Re: 1 52 year-old Ferrari or 100 new ones (Clyde Romero)
  3. The bubble (Erik Nielsen)
  4. Re: The bubble (Doug & Terri)
  5. Live Pebble Beach coverage (Erik Nielsen)
  6. Re: 1 52 year-old Ferrari or 100 new ones (Brian E. Buxton)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:13:18 -0400
From: John Ashburne <jashburne [at] aol.com>
To: Gary Reed <gary [at] garyreedsales.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Other Pebble Beach Ferrari auction results
Message-ID: <A956660D-F3A9-423F-AE39-C1ED89B6FDDE [at] aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

"I see!" Said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

John

Sent from my ATT Bell Rotary Dial Phone

> On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:33 AM, "Gary Reed" <gary [at] garyreedsales.com> wrote:
>
> It wasn't a street car.
> 
> 512 BB/LM
> 
> http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21917/lot/8/
> 
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Charles Perry
> To: Gary Reed
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Other Pebble Beach Ferrari auction results
>
> OK ? What am I missing on the 1981 512BB being nearly a $1M car??!??
> 
> Last I shopped those they were about $85k, climbing to around $125k a few years after. Was there something special about this one?
> 
> -- Charles
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=carolina-sound.com [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Michel Savard
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 6:21 PM
> To: Charles Perry
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] Other Pebble Beach Ferrari auction results
> 
> Here are other auction results from Pebble Beach from  the same Maranello Rosso Collection:
> 
> -1978 312 T3 ex-Villeneuve, ex-Reutemann: $2,310,000 (5 were built)
> -1958 250 GT series I cabriolet $6,820,000
> -1953 250 Mile Miglia Berlinetta ex-Phil Hill, white: $7,260,000
> -1968-69 Dino 166/246GT Formula 2 Tasman ex-Chris Amon ex-Brian Redman: $1,210,000
> -1981 512 Boxer Berlinetta: $990,000
> -1969 365 GTB/4 Daytona Berlinetta Competizione: $935,000
> -1962 250 GT Short-wheel base Special Aerodinamica: $6,875,000
> 
> Don't forget, the actual owner of these cars died in 2010. His kids and grandkids will be very very happy.
> 
> From another collection 275 GTB green: $2,600,000
> 
> Bubble broke ? What bubble!
> 
> Michael Savard
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:17:27 -0400
From: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
To: "BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com"
    <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1 52 year-old Ferrari or 100 new ones
Message-ID: <1CE84741-BC73-474D-BFFF-1FFBB58C65DB [at] bellsouth.net>
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Only Posers buy cars from people like that
Not true lovers of the marque
The up side is that they keep great mechanics in business
Since buying a car or anything mechanical like that is like buying the space shuttle challenger
It's going to blow up as soon as it's leaves the pad!

In victory you deserve Champagne
In defeat you need it!

   

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you follow all the rules
You miss all the fun!

Clyde Romero
Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net.         
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> On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:55 PM, "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com> wrote:
>
> Everyone contributes to the hobby in their own way.  People make fun of the Q-tip crowd that like to show their cars over driving them, but those are also the people that everyone wants to buy from.  Low mileage, meticulously cared for, clean top to bottom.
> <buxtonsig.jpg>
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> Brian E. Buxton
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> Office - (812) 476-2281 x 209 | Mobile/Text - (812) 760-5513 | Fax - (812) 476-2284
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>> On 8/16/14 11:07 AM, Adam Green wrote:
>> Why a hundred cars?  You'd have to go to the Middle East, China or Russia to see the answer.
>>
>> The same "nothing exceeds like excess" will be seen held high around Pebble and Quail this week(end) but there are still the true enthusiasts.  Whether they're the Q-tip brigade or time travelers living in their imaginary past, or billionaires and humble millionaires with their pristine historically significant cars completely rebuilt except for one rotten wood frame joint, or the guys with just as much money running original and unrestored cars or the hard core oil-sniffers sweating in the paddock at Laguna to run a few laps at a pace slower than a Kia mini-van with a whole soccer team on board,  they're all enjoying motor cars and motor sport in their own way. 
>>
>> Let the collectors, traders and speculators do their thing.  It should be their freedom to choose a damned life wasting money on stacking material objects of greed and envy.  Hopefully some of their fiscal table scraps go to charities and philanthropy.  I don't mean to hold others to a higher standard than I try to achieve of myself and I'm not so altruistic as to expect a sudden overwhelming shift from selfishness and greed to benevolence and caring. 
>>
>> I just wish they'd stick to unimportant paint and canvas, trinkets and baubles. 
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> Why would anyone want 100
>>> Ferrari's ?
>>
>>
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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:46:04 -0500
From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] The bubble
Message-ID: <EB5FF7B7-C81D-49CE-A80F-14BFFFBBC553 [at] gmail.com>
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I retract my statement about the bubble breaking, I was incorrect.

https://grabyo.com/g/v/SVNZlaxSAT3?fb_source=timeline&ref=profile#_=_

As a 365 GT4 2+2 owner, I'm shocked at this result, but all of a sudden $400k 250 GTEs start to make sense.

Need to call Hagerty and change the agreed value on my car tomorrow.

Erik

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 08:48:28 -0700
From: "Doug & Terri" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "'Erik Nielsen'" <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Cc: 'The FerrariList' <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The bubble
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Hagerty?s gotta love these auctions!

DOUG



From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Erik Nielsen
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:46 AM
To: DOUG
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] The bubble



I retract my statement about the bubble breaking, I was incorrect.



https://grabyo.com/g/v/SVNZlaxSAT3?fb_source=timeline <https://grabyo.com/g/v/SVNZlaxSAT3?fb_source=timeline&ref=profile#_=_> &ref=profile#_=_



As a 365 GT4 2+2 owner, I'm shocked at this result, but all of a sudden $400k 250 GTEs start to make sense.



Need to call Hagerty and change the agreed value on my car tomorrow.



Erik

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Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:42:24 -0500
From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Live Pebble Beach coverage
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http://www.pebblebeachconcours.tv

Sent from my iPad


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:35:15 -0500
From: "Brian E. Buxton" <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
To: Clyde Romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1 52 year-old Ferrari or 100 new ones
Message-ID: <53F12E23.9010705 [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>
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Oh come on clYde - How is buying a perfectly kept car not loving the
marque?  You are only a true collector if you have dents dings and
scratches? While cars are made to be driven, cigars are also made to be
smoked and wine drunk.  BUT there are an awful lot of all of the above
in collections, getting better, more rare and more valuable year by
year.  I would say there is some love and respect that goes into not
driving a car in the rain, keeping it mechanically up to date and yet
preserving its originality.  People who drive their cars but yet at the
same time trash them I'm not so sure you can say that about.  Two
different types of people using cars in 2 different ways.  But
regardless of whether you drive it or not, they both still need service
and maintenance.

Brian Buxton
Buxton Motorsports

*Brian E. Buxton*
Buxton Motorsports, Inc. | 301 North Royal Ave. | Buxton Plaza |
Evansville, IN 47715-2866
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On 8/17/14 7:17 AM, Clyde Romero wrote:
> Only Posers buy cars from people like that
> Not true lovers of the marque
> The up side is that they keep great mechanics in business
> Since buying a car or anything mechanical like that is like buying the
> space shuttle challenger
> It's going to blow up as soon as it's leaves the pad!
>
> In victory you deserve Champagne
> In defeat you need it!
>
>
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>
> If you follow all the rules
> You miss all the fun!
>
> Clyde Romero
> Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net <mailto:Clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>.
> 678  6419932
>
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> On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:55 PM, "Brian E. Buxton"
> <BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com
> <mailto:BrianBuxton [at] BuxtonMotorsports.com>> wrote:
>
>> Everyone contributes to the hobby in their own way.  People make fun
>> of the Q-tip crowd that like to show their cars over driving them,
>> but those are also the people that everyone wants to buy from. Low
>> mileage, meticulously cared for, clean top to bottom.
>> <buxtonsig.jpg>
>> <15thBanner.jpg>
>>
>> *Brian E. Buxton*
>> Buxton Motorsports, Inc. | 301 North Royal Ave. | Buxton Plaza |
>> Evansville, IN 47715-2866
>> Office - (812) 476-2281 x 209 | Mobile/Text - (812) 760-5513 | Fax -
>> (812) 476-2284
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>>
>> President, Brian Buxton Enterprises, Inc.
>> Nationwide Enclosed Auto Transportation
>>
>> Founder & Past President
>> So. IN Region Porsche Club of America
>> On 8/16/14 11:07 AM, Adam Green wrote:
>>> Why a hundred cars?  You'd have to go to the Middle East, China or
>>> Russia to see the answer.
>>>
>>> The same "nothing exceeds like excess" will be seen held high around
>>> Pebble and Quail this week(end) but there are still the true
>>> enthusiasts.  Whether they're the Q-tip brigade or time travelers
>>> living in their imaginary past, or billionaires and humble
>>> millionaires with their pristine historically significant cars
>>> completely rebuilt except for one rotten wood frame joint, or the
>>> guys with just as much money running original and unrestored cars or
>>> the hard core oil-sniffers sweating in the paddock at Laguna to run
>>> a few laps at a pace slower than a Kia mini-van with a whole soccer
>>> team on board,  they're all enjoying motor cars and motor sport in
>>> their own way.
>>>
>>> Let the collectors, traders and speculators do their thing.  It
>>> should be their freedom to choose a damned life wasting money on
>>> stacking material objects of greed and envy.  Hopefully some of
>>> their fiscal table scraps go to charities and philanthropy.  I don't
>>> mean to hold others to a higher standard than I try to achieve of
>>> myself and I'm not so altruistic as to expect a sudden overwhelming
>>> shift from selfishness and greed to benevolence and caring.
>>>
>>> I just wish they'd stick to unimportant paint and canvas, trinkets
>>> and baubles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Clyde Romero
>>> <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net <mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Why would anyone want 100
>>>    Ferrari's ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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