Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Problem solved: engine dies suddenly, fuel pump ?

[Stephen L Sherman (stephensherman44]

I had a similar experience with the turn signal/hazard switch in 2005. The turn signals worked

Only when I did not need them. I would flip the switch 30 times and the turn signals would work

Then fail when a semi was behind me and I was turning left.

I tried to find a turn signal relay but NA was the standard answer.

So I pulled the switch, cleaned it, rebuilt and replaced it NOS.

Still failed, I tried several from NAPA until I found a turn signal relay that worked, so much for yellow box with the horse on it.

I still do not understand why the flipping the hazard switch would make the turn signals

( I know it is in the hazard/turn signal circuit ) work.

Stephen

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On Aug 24, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca> wrote:

Unbelievable. All I had to do was take a piece of sandpaper and rub it on the 5 legs. It started right away. I'll still find a new relay this week. But I don't understand why that was the problem. The 5 legs looked very very nice, all golden and nice ????

I put a sandpaper in my tool box!

Thanks Stephen!

Michael Savard

----- Original Message -----

From: Stephen Sherman

To: Michel Savard

Cc: The FerrariList

Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 8:17 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] engine dies suddenly, fuel pump ?

Have you checked the RELAY?  It is H bottom left on the relay board.

A couple of years ago mine did not start, did not hear the pump, I checked the relay and it had carbon on it on the legs, I cleaned it with Q tip in alcohol put it back in ad it has been fine ever since.

Stephen

On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca> wrote:

Problems again. First towing in 4 years. 1981 308 GTSi is running perfectly well. Going back home, red light becomes green, 1st gear, turn left and then woof! Engine dies. I rolled quietly to the next red light. We do have A LOT of red lights in Montreal. The light turns green, I turn the key, engine starts and dies right away, but I'm going downhill, so I put it in 2nd and clutch in clutch out, it starts for one second again and dies, keep rolling downhill take a right turn in neutral, try again to start it, it starts and then HUGE backfire and dies again.

 

I decided to play (switch relays) with the relay because there is a noise coming from the fuel pump relay. Try different relays that were there. Nothing. But at one point I clearly heard a "whistling" noise (as if air was coming out from somewhere) coming from the area of the fuel pump in the engine bay. Very strange and scary. That noise came when I put a relay, don't remember which one, in place of the fuel pump relay. I still tried to start it even if that whistling noise was scaring me. Nothing. I put the original relay back in and the whistling noise stopped. Absolutely no smell of gas at all. Fuel tank is 2/3 empty.

 

Called the towing and parked it.

 

Fuel pump was changed in november 2006 along with a used accumulator. The relay was changed in may 2011. It's saturday, can't talk to my mechanic until monday. And what's worse is I'm back at school (I'm a teacher) on monday. No more vacation, ne more free days to get the Ferrari to my mechanic whenever I want to.

 

What do you think ?

If it's the fuel pump, any idea of the price ? (I paid $146.00 back in 2006.

 

Thank you!

Michael Savard

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