Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Seeking Tire Recommendations - 512TR

[Charles Perry (charles]

Your memory is mostly good! It was the 355, not the Diablo. First experience with the heavy camber on the 355 rears. Looked great on the outside when I bought the car. By the time I drove it home to Charleston the rears were on belts on the inside edge and understandably slippery.

 

Same thing happened when Dennis & picked up his F430 Spider. Outer edges looked great. Got to snow in mountains - big surprise!

 

:-)

 

 

From: Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:29 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Seeking Tire Recommendations - 512TR

 

CG,

 

If I remember correctly, one of your very first drives with the Diablo had you slide over a few lanes at a rather unremarkable speed......pretty poor roadholding for a car of that caliber, until you discovered some (very old?) tires in not so great condition.

 

I agree with you -- I don't understand why tire price needs to be brought up.....at the rate people actually drive these cars, relative lack of track time, lack of obnoxious burnouts.....they should last awhile, and the price difference should be a non factor.

 

I would imagine the price of brake rotors and pads to be a bigger cost basis decision to ponder than tires -- F50 brakes on a 512 TR would be amazing, but not sure if practical. :)

 

FG

 

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com> wrote:

I have to agree with SteveJ – I would not buy anything but Michelin Pilot Sports for any car that has that fitment. I’ve had them on everything and they are phenomenally consistent and of high quality. Nice balance between noise/performance/ride. I have tried lesser tires and while I didn’t hate them, I didn’t like them as much as the Pilots. As infrequently as I buy them the extra money doesn’t bother me, and they are the only thing connecting your six-figure ride to the road.

 

On this very rare occasion, I will STRONGLY disagree with Clyde about “mix and match.” If you’re talking about all four tires, fine, but I would not mix and match fronts to rears. I recently was taking the 355 to a track day and bought a pair of Nittos for the rear because mine were worn out and that was the only thing I could get in time. Had Bridgestone Potenzas on the front that were in good condition. On the track day the car was completely undrivable – floaty, unstable and unpredictable. Understeer on one lap and oversteer on the next. Very scary. At the time I chalked it up to it having been 10 years since my last track day and me being rusty as hell. The following weekend I took the car out on local back roads and it behaved the same at normal highway speeds. At that point I assumed something was broken and took it to my regular mechanic. He went over the car thoroughly and found nothing wrong – suggested I put matching tires on front. Then I talked to Bighead Dennis Liu (who’s had 355 street car and 355 Challenge) and he said the identical thing happened to him when he had different tires front to back – and his were less different than mine (Potenza S02 PP on back and Potenza S03PP on front).

 

I’d never had Nittos before but gambled on them being OK rather than throw out a fresh set of $800 rears with 300 miles on them. Bought matching Nittos for the fronts and the car is back to normal. I don’t know if the 512TR is as sensitive, but mix and match on the 355 is a very VERY bad idea.

 

Apologies to Clyde if that’s not what he meant by “mix and match,” but replace as a full like set!

 

-- charles

 

 

 

From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=carolina-sound.com [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:03 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Seeking Tire Recommendations - 512TR

 

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Larry Bard <larrybard [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

Time to replace set of old Yokohama AVS tires.  Tire Rack has the following in proper size (235/40/18 and 295/35/18), listed in order of decreasing price for all 4:

$1,398 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
$1,356 Yokohama ADVAN Sport
$1,150 Pirelli P Zero Rosso
$852    Toyo Proxes 1
$772    Continental Extreme Contact DW

Any comments/suggestions would be most appreciated; would like to order within next 24 hours.  This is certainly not my track car.  I try to "exercise" it once a week, for roughly 50 mile drives, almost entirely at somewhat high speeds on local highways.

 

Michelin Pilot Sports have NEVER let me down on my 512TR. LOVE them.

 

SJ 

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