Ferrari Mailing List: Re: NEEEED!

[Stephen Sherman (stephensherman44]

The house I live in was built in 1979 ( I bought in 1996 ), a friend of mine knew the builder, the owner of the airport where it is located. There was a fly in and I piloted our Cessna 150 Aerobat to the event.

KS has a lot of tornados and this house is underground (yes I mow the roof), the first thing that I noticed a full size bulldozer on the roof, walls and ceiling are 12" concrete with 1 1/8 " steel rebar. It was built with a single pour

by the outfit that built the KC Chiefs stadium Arrowhead.

There is an attached garage (underground ) for the Ferrari and the Porsche , the Detroit pig iron live in 40x30 garage I had built in 2004 with a lift so I could service the Ferrari I would buy Jan 2005.

Been trying to figure how to get off the grid since 96. I was paying 4 cents a KW (wind was 50 cents a KW ) now I pay 15 cents a KW in 2015.

Now I figure I would not live long enough to recoup the start up costs.

Stephen  

 

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Come hang with me sometime.

If McIntosh is your idea of high end, please pull up your Camry and let me show you some real cars....no offense to the Mac owners here, but gotta keep it real. :)

The thing that kills me with people judging high end is that most have never heard anything really, really good. Even guys who like this stuff and read all the stereo magazines, go to all the shows, have money for whatever car you can imagine don't get to hear great stuff, so the average layman would have to luck out big time. 

I help my good friend out at the DC Audio shows, and we're always getting the best reviews with both with our entry level $15k rig and our $50-70k vintage beast. That is gear not even in optimized environments or ideal component matching......it's showing up to the street racing circuit with a stock whatever and winning every race. It's frightening consistency in a world of complete uncertainty. 

I still stand behind the line that many (not all) live shows are overrated and not well "engineered". I'm not looking for stereos to "defeat" live. (this is not a mutually exclusive deal)......just been my experience having gone to many concerts that only about 25% are anything worth writing home about. 

And it's not really about what's better, but accessible enjoyment. It's like saying you'd only own a real race car because a street car cannot match up on a track, but you're only driving it a few times a year versus something fun every day or several times a month. 

I know a handful of people who do this, but most do not do this. 

It's a drug for some of us. I don't do the real drugs, but this I can do all day. 

Coulda had a Ferrari for quite some time now instead of this. That should speak volumes.

Would anyone in their right mind trade 500 or 1000 concerts for a 355? LOLOLOL.

I don't know if I'll ever be fortunate enough to have an F40 in this lifetime, but an F40 system is all but guaranteed and for less than money than the typical E Class Benz...

FG

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Guess I'm not the typical retiree hair farmer...  I like LIVE and HEAVY...  loud just goes with it...

the Heavy Classics such as Bach on "the" organ at the Thomaskirche

Or Heavy (metal/rock) such as Tool at the Thomas and Mack arena

and very little in between.

Live performances have a visceral component that you just cant get with a "stereo" no matter how big it is.

For my tastes a McIntosh Tube amp can not compete with a Randall (or Krank) Stack behind Dimebag!   Repeatably??  Fuck NO, every show was a unique gem and a memory

C'mon Rob, back me up here!!!

Rick

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From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: "ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NEEEED!

I prefer classical music, opera is #2 on the list.  As for the rest, I don't consider loud a genre.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 10, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Live performances are often a bit overrated except for classical....there it's difficult to capture the large soundstage and dynamic range of a performance. Jazz is a close 2nd but usually easier to record well. 

And even then, there's no repeatability. 

This is one instance where the simulator is usually better than the real thing. 

It doesn't make rational sense in some ways but to those who like it, there's no substitute. 

On Thursday, September 10, 2015, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I'm deaf when it comes to home systems, would rather see a performance live.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

High end audio, pound for pound (done right) is the most satisfying conspicuous consumption purchase out there.

$30-50k cars are ok, but systems in those price ranges are pushing well into the 90+ percentile of quality, last a long time and can be put together and upgraded piecemeal. You're not going to run into obsolescence issues either. 

Of course you have to be into this stuff, but cars and homes can be a bit disappointing when you have to care about the money you spend, value, headaches, etc. 

Experiences are great too. Should go without saying...

FG

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Most of the high income peers that I have that are younger than me are foregoing bigger houses, they are travelling a lot more and eating out more.  Even the guys that are 10 years older than me are heavily questioning the need for starter castles.  I've got one friend with a 6000 sqft house that doesn't even go upstairs any more.  Times they are a changing....

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

"...This is where millennials may be on to something in that they tend to be less interested in owning big houses or expensive cars and more interested in experiential spending. Big implications for the market economy of the future. 

John"

That's because the Millennials can't afford the big homes and fast cars! No use getting worked up over something you can never have/afford.

"...When you are lying on your deathbed, what will you remember more, the things you owned or the things you did?..."

Hopefully both!

Peter

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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:17:57 -0400
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NEEEED!
From: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
To: dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com

IIRC, Hemingway did NONE of those three...

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