Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: LS (lashdeep![]() |
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:12:44 -0800 (PST) |
It was the Cone of Conduct.
So, yes, we tripled the speed limit once we got proper oil temperature.
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From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48
Were you adhering to the "Exotic Car Code of Conduct" at the time?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 12:16 PM, LS via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:
CG, is that also the time you performed your own torsional rigidity test on the TR?Martz had a terrific black 5000S 2valve which I fondly remember driving around Santa Fe, NM a *long* time ago.Epic memories!Nutty full circle...I rode in that car again 3 yrs ago from Gilroy to Monterey.LSJcentralwines-spirits est 1934625 e street nwwashington, dc 20004
From: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48
Good memory, Erik! Definitely extreme pucker factor there. I had the TR on the track twice – once at Talladega (short track, not super-speedway) and once at the big list gathering at Hallett. Definitely cooked the brakes like mad at Talladega, but that was originally built as a motorcycle track, so the poor TR was even more out of its element than it would’ve been at a “normal” track.After that fun I upgraded my TR brakes to the F50 setup. I’ve never overheated them since, but I did create a different problem wherein at heavy braking I can now lock the front wheels pretty much instantaneously. I’ve had to re-learn my braking in that car under panic situations to break lightly for a split second to get some forward weight transfer, and then go heavy into them. Works, but still an eye-opener each time. I looked into installing a proportioning valve that could vary the brake bias and push a little more toward the rear but never found anyone in whom I felt comfort assigning that work.I can’t honestly remember whether I did the F50 upgrade before or after the Hallett track day, but I do remember the car was HUGE fun there, both figuratively and literally. Hallett is a much larger track with nice flow and a good front straight. I’m sure the smaller, lighter cars were much faster on timed laps, but I just know the TR kept me giggling like an idiot all day. One of my fondest memories is chasing Joe Martz around that day in his downdraft QV Countach (also not an ideal track car). The two of us had a few lovely four wheel drifts coming around the entrance corner onto the main straight and then hammering the two 12s – it was just amazing.In fact, the Hallett trip was one of the most fun and memorable of my life, so hats off to Rick Lindsay and a couple of other Tulsa residents at the time for organizing the first “national” level List event.From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+charles=carolina-sound.com [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Erik Nielsen
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:39 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: Ferrari List
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48The TR’s were definitely not track ready, especially the brakes. I’ll defer to Charles to explain exactly what he said when the middle pedal went to the floor with nothing happening at Talledega many years ago...On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:Well, there is that....In my world (not recommended for anyone), the TRs were never really "sports cars" intended for cornering as Peter brought up. They were built for the US market, point and shoot, freeway eaters. And they are damn good at that! Get near a track and I'd bet on the German tail slapper. Unless said track has a really long straight.Just my 2 pesos...Rick
On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:Or that TTO is one of the few appealing things about an older 911.....for those that can handle it at least.On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Peter Pless <ferrarilist [at] pless.com.au> wrote:Is anyone else amused that the owner of a 512TR makes fun of a Porsche for having trailing throttle oversteer?Just sayin’From: Doug & Terri [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
Sent: Sunday, 27 December 2015 4:59 PM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: 'Ferrari List'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48RM notes “That was always the fun of coming up behind a 911 variant on track.”Picture this – 1978 Lemans – The Porsche 935’s twin KKK turbos were getting beaten right at the end of the Mulsanne Straight. After the race, Porsche guys talked with Renault team and asked them how they always managed to snooker them at that corner. Easy was the reply – going down Mulsanne Straight you turbos turn white hot. When our driver saw them go from white to yellow to orange - - - we knew you were off the gas. Voila. Snooker.DOUG
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- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48, (continued)
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 LS, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Erik Nielsen, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Charles Perry, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Fellippe Galletta, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 LS, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Charles Perry, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 LS, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Matt Boyd, December 29 2015
- Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 113, Issue 48 Charles Perry, December 29 2015
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