Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 118, Issue 46

[Craig Williamson (da-rolls]

If that VW bus is a 23 window, it's a very low price.
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>   3. CNBC - Clyde Romero (Dick Petrick )
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> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 13:53:46 -0500
> From: clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com
> To: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CNBC
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> Clyde pricing works
> Buy the car like you buy drugs
>
> Clyde Romero
>
> If you have no enemies
> You have no character !
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> In Defeat You Need It!
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>> On May 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Fellippe Galletta 
>> <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Man, he could sell ice to the eskimos....
>>
>> Nothing against Roy, but a few cars on that site are like Bizarro World 
>> Clyde pricing. I'm talking in particular the non exotic stuff like an old 
>> VW Bus in average condition and high mileage selling for $33k....
>>
>> How?? Why??
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Can't argue with his magic touch...
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Gary Reed <gary [at] garyreedsales.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Roy Cats (Cats Exotics) has FIVE Countachs for sale right now at his 
>>> dealership.   http://www.catsexotics.com/
>>>
>>> He told me that the demand for them has dropped way off and he might 
>>> have to sit on them for awhile.
>>>
>>> Those five are priced from low of $300K to a high of $479K
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: scott saidel
>>> To: Gary Reed
>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 10:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CNBC
>>>
>>> Ill sell you a 88.5 countach for $500k
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 27, 2016, at 1:10 PM, "clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com" 
>>>> <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CNBC  today had a Ferrari TR and Countach and a 1988 BMW M3 that were 
>>>> clean
>>>> Out in a parking lot
>>>>
>>>> They said the TR was worth $100K this was a single mirror with the
>>>> Draconian knock offs !
>>>> The Lamborghini was worth, now sit down $600K
>>>> And the BMW was worth $60K
>>>>
>>>> They have lost their  minds
>>>> The early TR had brakes from a BUICK Lesabre !
>>>> And LAMBO are worth more in parts ! At least the ones that didn't catch 
>>>> fire !
>>>> As for the BMW M3 which had a cylinder head gasket made of corn flakes 
>>>> and exhaust manifold issues that make the current air bag recall look 
>>>> like nothing
>>>>
>>>> What are people smoking ?
>>>> Pity the poor fools who buy at these prices
>>>>
>>>> In victory you deserve Champagne
>>>> In defeat you need it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>>>
>>>> If you follow all the rules
>>>> You miss all the fun!
>>>>
>>>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>>>
>>>> Clyde Romero
>>>>
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> From: LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> To: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
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> 1. More rich people now
> 2. Most new exotics suck
> 3. Speculators in the market who don't necessarily use the cars but are 
> buying multiples at a time.
> 4. Currency devaluation
>
> ?LSJ
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>      From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CNBC
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> The thing that gets me is that I remember in the early days of the list a 
> TR was about 60k, and an early Countach was about 50k....certainly no more 
> than 80k for a good QV, maybe the early LP400 was a six figure car.
> With no more being built at that point in the late '90s, how is it really 
> any different then than now? These have all been used cars since '89-'91.?
> Even if you skip over to around 2005, they still were low in price --  
> that's if you needed more time away from the end of those production runs 
> which admittedly weren't even ten years old in the early list days (scary 
> to think about now).
> What was the enthusiast missing in 1997 that is so clear now? Mind you, 
> we're talking about people like us not the average car enthusiast who only 
> likes cars for speed and the simple quantifiable thrills.
> You could argue that indeed these cars are all worth mega bucks...$200k 
> TR, $600k Countach because the only reason they are really worth anything 
> at all is for all of the intangibles.?
> But if that's the case, then why did we have them for such super bargains 
> not so long ago?
> The common narrative I've read is that with the advent of new exotics that 
> are far more video game like than one could imagine, there's been a run on 
> older cars.?
> However, that seems too extreme for me to believe.
> What I think happened is this:
> The softer, more casual enthusiast finally became hardcore the last few 
> years.....and now there's been a spike in demand.
> I've monitored ferrari chat, lambopower the last decade.....and I've 
> noticed some guys who hated the older cars now do a 180.?
> I wouldn't say they've become clones of REAL enthusiasts, but enough so 
> that they effectively are, market wise.?
> FG
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:10 PM, <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
> CNBC ?today had a Ferrari TR and Countach and a 1988 BMW M3 that were 
> clean?Out in a parking lot?
> They said the TR was worth $100K this was a single mirror with 
> the?Draconian knock offs !?The Lamborghini was worth, now sit down 
> $600KAnd the BMW was worth $60K
> They have lost their ?minds?The early TR had brakes from a BUICK Lesabre 
> !And LAMBO are worth more in parts ! At least the ones that didn't catch 
> fire !As for the BMW M3 which had a cylinder head gasket made of corn 
> flakes and exhaust manifold issues that make the current air bag recall 
> look like nothing?
> What are people smoking ?Pity the poor fools who buy at these prices?
> In victory you deserve ChampagneIn defeat you need it!
> ? ? ?
> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
> If you follow all the rulesYou miss all the fun!?
> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
> Clyde Romero? ??
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> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:20:00 -0500
> From: "Dick Petrick " <rtpetrick [at] comcast.net>
> To: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: [Ferrari] CNBC - Clyde Romero
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> Clyde,
>
> Thank you for your insight.
>
> What do you think a good early TR is really worth?
>
> What would be a good price on a good 512TR?
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> Regards,
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> Dick Petrick
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> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:21:03 -0500
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> To: LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CNBC
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> QE2, QE3, only so much Vancouver and San Fransisco real estate to go 
> around?
>
>
>> On May 27, 2016, at 1:54 PM, LSJ via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 1. More rich people now
>>
>> 2. Most new exotics suck
>>
>> 3. Speculators in the market who don't necessarily use the cars but are 
>> buying multiples at a time.
>>
>> 4. Currency devaluation
>>
>>
>>
>> LSJ
>>
>> central
>> wines-spirits   est 1934
>>
>> 625 e street nw
>> washington, dc 20004
>>
>> centralwines.com <http://centralwines.com/>
>>
>> facebook.com/CentralLiquors <http://facebook.com/CentralLiquors>
>>
>> 202-737-2800
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com 
>> <mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>>
>> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com <mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>>
>> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com 
>> <mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] CNBC
>>
>> The thing that gets me is that I remember in the early days of the list a 
>> TR was about 60k, and an early Countach was about 50k....certainly no 
>> more than 80k for a good QV, maybe the early LP400 was a six figure car.
>>
>> With no more being built at that point in the late '90s, how is it really 
>> any different then than now? These have all been used cars since '89-'91.
>>
>> Even if you skip over to around 2005, they still were low in price --  
>> that's if you needed more time away from the end of those production runs 
>> which admittedly weren't even ten years old in the early list days (scary 
>> to think about now).
>>
>> What was the enthusiast missing in 1997 that is so clear now? Mind you, 
>> we're talking about people like us not the average car enthusiast who 
>> only likes cars for speed and the simple quantifiable thrills.
>>
>> You could argue that indeed these cars are all worth mega bucks...$200k 
>> TR, $600k Countach because the only reason they are really worth anything 
>> at all is for all of the intangibles.
>>
>> But if that's the case, then why did we have them for such super bargains 
>> not so long ago?
>>
>> The common narrative I've read is that with the advent of new exotics 
>> that are far more video game like than one could imagine, there's been a 
>> run on older cars.
>>
>> However, that seems too extreme for me to believe.
>>
>> What I think happened is this:
>>
>> The softer, more casual enthusiast finally became hardcore the last few 
>> years.....and now there's been a spike in demand.
>>
>> I've monitored ferrari chat, lambopower the last decade.....and I've 
>> noticed some guys who hated the older cars now do a 180.
>>
>> I wouldn't say they've become clones of REAL enthusiasts, but enough so 
>> that they effectively are, market wise.
>>
>> FG
>>
>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:10 PM,  <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com 
>> <mailto:clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>> wrote:
>> CNBC  today had a Ferrari TR and Countach and a 1988 BMW M3 that were 
>> clean
>> Out in a parking lot
>>
>> They said the TR was worth $100K this was a single mirror with the
>> Draconian knock offs !
>> The Lamborghini was worth, now sit down $600K
>> And the BMW was worth $60K
>>
>> They have lost their  minds
>> The early TR had brakes from a BUICK Lesabre !
>> And LAMBO are worth more in parts ! At least the ones that didn't catch 
>> fire !
>> As for the BMW M3 which had a cylinder head gasket made of corn flakes 
>> and exhaust manifold issues that make the current air bag recall look 
>> like nothing
>>
>> What are people smoking ?
>> Pity the poor fools who buy at these prices
>>
>> In victory you deserve Champagne
>> In defeat you need it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>
>> If you follow all the rules
>> You miss all the fun!
>>
>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>
>> Clyde Romero
>>
>>
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