Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Latest F1 news from Grand Prix 247

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

The long slow decline of an empire...

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On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:

So either English born or employed by the English?

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

His outfit is no worse than the monstrosity out of Woking named the Senna...

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> On Dec 10, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net> wrote:
>
> My dear Francis, I would never intentionally stereotype my British friends,
> although it would be an easy thing to do!  I spent quite a bit of time in
> England and actually attended the British National Defense College at
> Lattimer for a short course.  Really a splendid first class experience for
> me. What I was trying to get across in my comment was that the British seem
> to care more than others about Form.  "What's the form old boy"  I've heard
> that many times from my British colleagues before some event or occasion.
> Now, I am an Octogenarian and things may have changed considerably since
> then, but, Lewis (who I greatly admire) certainly looked a bit out of place
> as he was the only one not going with the Form! I don't think his fans would
> care, but, those who do the selection for honors might. I would hate to see
> him passed over for a Knighthood for something like this!
>
> Luke
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: francis newman [mailto:francis.newman@webshot.co.uk]
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:54 AM
> To: Luke Graves
> Cc: francis newman; The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Latest F1 news from Grand Prix 247
>
> Actually Luke, you are just pandering to a stereotype of us Brits. I am 67
> years old and fairly traditional. But we are not the people you may have
> seen in films of years ago. I personally applaud Lewis for turning uj in a
> modern fashionable designer outfit. It shows he is not stuck in some fuddy
> duddy past. I thought he looked very smart. I just wish I had the athletic
> figure and money to do the same myself - well maybe not quite so extreme but
> certainly something a bit different from the norm of a black tie
> dinnerjacket (tuxedo to you).
>
> Francis
>
>> On 10 Dec 2017, at 16:42, Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net> wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't make my mind up if I liked his attire on not, but, it was
> certainly out of place.  The British take these things seriously.  If he
> wants a Knighthood down the line, he better tone it down!
>>
>> Luke
>>
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>> Of Doug & Terri
>> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:59 AM
>> To: Col Luke Graves
>> Cc: 'The FerrariList'
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Latest F1 news from Grand Prix 247
>>
>> Ah, c'mon Clyde - give the guy a break - - - Lewis just hasn't gotten
>> his six billion percent "Oh Look At ME" quotient.
>> At least he wore pants.
>> DOUG
>>
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> Behalf Of Clarence Romero Jr.
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>> Subject: [Ferrari] Fwd: Latest F1 news from Grand Prix 247
>>
>> Lewis has zero decorum!
>> Everyone else is in black tie he dresses like a pimp
>>
>>
>>
>>     RF4-4EVR
>>
>>
>> Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
>>
>> If you have no enemies, you have no character !
>>
>> Clyde Romero
>>
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>>> From: GRAND PRIX 247 <noreply+feedproxy [at] google.com>
>>> Date: December 9, 2017 at 11:10:31 PM EST
>>> To: clyde.romero [at] yahoo.com
>>> Subject: Latest F1 news from Grand Prix 247
>>> Reply-To: GRAND PRIX 247 <info [at] grandprix247.com>
>>>
>>> Latest F1 news from Grand Prix 247
>>>
>>>    . In 2017 F1 reports bigger crowds with Mexico best race
>>>    . Hamilton crowned Formula 1 champion at royal palace
>>>    . 2017 McLaren Analysis: An Unmitigated Disaster In 2017 F1 reports
>>> bigger crowds with Mexico best race
>>> Posted: 09 Dec 2017 02:48 PM PST
>>>
>>>
>>> Formula 1 saw an eight percent increase in the number of fans attending
> races during the 2017 season, with 13 of the 20 races reporting bigger
> crowds, according to figures published by the sport's commercial rights
> holder.
>>>
>>> Monaco and Abu Dhabi reported no change while five, including two of the
> races with the biggest overall turnout, saw slight decreases on 2016.
>>>
>>> Formula 1 said in a statement that the season's global average attendance
> per three-day event was 203,570 and 76,722 on race Sunday.
>>>
>>> The total attendance over the 20-race season was 4,071,400 and is set to
> grow next year with an extra race added to the calendar. The 2017 season was
> the first under new U.S.-based owners Liberty Media.
>>>
>>> "An attendance of more than 200,000 per event means that for 20 weekends
> per year, the population of a medium-sized city visits a racetrack to watch
> a Formula One Grand Prix," said commercial managing director Sean Bratches.
>>>
>>> Canada reported the biggest overall attendance of 360,000, an increase of
> 60,000 in 2016, followed by the British Grand Prix at Silverstone on 344,500
> and Mexico with 337,043. Formula 1 said the attendance figures were provided
> by promoters.
>>>
>>> Azerbaijan saw the biggest percentage rise, up 58 percent with a reported
> crowd of 71,451. That was still the smallest of any race. Japan saw the
> biggest drop, down to 137,000 from a previous 145,000.
>>>
>>> Malaysia, which has fallen off the calendar after this year's race,
> pulled in a total of 110,604 - a 19.69 percent rise on 2016.
>>>
>>> The Mexican Grand Prix was named the best race of the season for the
> third year in a row. The award is decided by Formula One management in
> consultation with teams and stakeholders.
>>>
>>> "This is the first time ever that the same city gets three in a row,"
> race promoter Alejandro Soberon told Reuters at the governing FIA's
> end-of-season awards in Paris.
>>>
>>> "I think we are going to continue doing bigger and better every time,"
> added Soberon, president and chief executive of the CIE Group that hosts the
> race with government backing.
>>>
>>> The Australia Grand Prix also won the award in three successive seasons
> but one of those was in Adelaide before the race moved to Melbourne.
>>>
>>> Soberon said the award was all the more meaningful this year since the
> Oct. 29 race came after devastating earthquakes in September.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hamilton crowned Formula 1 champion at royal palace
>>> Posted: 09 Dec 2017 04:47 AM PST
>>>
>>> Lewis Hamilton was handed the Formula 1 World Championship winner's
> trophy for the fourth time on Friday at a gala prizegiving ceremony in the
> sumptuous palace of France's former monarchy.
>>>
>>> With Formula 1 chairman Chase Carey looking on, newly-re-elected
> International Automobile Federation (FIA) president Jean Todt handed the
> 32-year-old Mercedes driver the silverware he won in Mexico with two races
> to spare.
>>>
>>> "This has been an amazing year," Hamilton told the audience of champions
> and FIA members gathered in the palace's 18th-century opera.
>>>
>>> "I hope that next year's an even better year for all of you. I know for
> me that I'm going to try to do better."
>>>
>>> Hamilton won nine of 20 races in 2017 and set an all-time record of 72
> career pole positions as well as scoring points in every grand prix.
>>>
>>> Asked earlier for his highlight of the season, Hamilton singled out his
> home British Grand Prix at Silverstone because of the support he received
> after the 'negativity' surrounding his failure to take part in an earlier
> London event.
>>>
>>> He had also told reporters that while he did not like going to award
> ceremonies or being on stage, he enjoyed watching others succeed.
>>>
>>> Mercedes won both championships for the fourth year in a row but team
> boss Toto Wolff said 2017 had been particularly difficult.
>>>
>>> "We keep it now," he said after being handed the constructors' trophy by
> Carey.
>>>
>>> Red Bull's 20-year-old Dutch driver Max Verstappen beat a field that
> included Hamilton and his own Australian team mate Daniel Ricciardo to the
> 'Personality of the Year" award for the third successive year.
>>>
>>> The award is selected by permanently accredited media from all FIA
> championships.
>>>
>>> "I always try to be honest and straightforward so I guess that gave me
> the personality again this year," said the winner of two races in 2017.
>>>
>>> "It was a hard season but I learnt a lot from it."
>>>
>>> Monaco's Formula Two winner and 2018 Sauber F1 driver Charles Leclerc won
> the Rookie of the Year award while Finnish rally driver Esapekka Lappi won
> the 'Action of the Year' for a jump in the Rally of Portugal.
>>>
>>> British teenager Billy Monger, who had his lower legs amputated after a
> horrific smash in a Formula Four race at Donington Park in April, was
> presented with an FIA president's special award.
>>>
>>> Monger, who has already returned to driving, walked out onto the stage on
> prosthetic legs to a resounding ovation.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017 McLaren Analysis: An Unmitigated Disaster
>>> Posted: 09 Dec 2017 04:30 AM PST
>>>
>>> <
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Zero wins. Zero podiums. Zero hope. Thanks to an engine as underpowered
> as it was unreliable, the final year of the McLaren-Honda experiment was an
> unmitigated disaster.
>>>
>>> Season Summary
>>>
>>> After a brutal first season back with Honda in 2015, 2016 had shown
> marked improvement in the fortunes of McLaren - alas, 2017 turned out to be
> more like the former than the latter. Racking up the engine failures in a
> fashion that would be comical if it weren't so sad, the once-great team
> couldn't even muster half of last year's points total. Whether McLaren had a
> chassis to compete for wins or not (and it certainly looked the part at
> high-downforce circuits like Monaco and Hungary), it was clear Honda's
> development programme was fundamentally broken, and it came as no surprise
> when their divorce was announced at the Singapore Grand Prix in September.
> For 2018, the Woking outfit moves to a Renault supply and the hope that
> finally, their nightmare run is over.
>>>
>>> Rating: 3/10
>>>
>>> Driver Ratings:
>>>
>>> Fernando Alonso
>>>
>>> Undoubtedly still one of the best drivers in the sport, 2017 was a year
> in which Alonso was afforded few chances to show it. Sapped of any
> motivation amidst Honda's struggles, the Spaniard still managed to impress
> by closing the season with three-straight top-ten finishes, showing his
> trademark ability to extract the most out of every car. Unfortunately, it
> doesn't count for much when he's still as far away from championship
> contention as he was three years ago. If all goes well, the Renault deal
> will breath new life into his fading F1 championship aspirations - otherwise
> at 36-going-on-37, he might start having to look elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Rating: 8/10
>>>
>>> Stoffel Vandoorne
>>>
>>> His first full season in the sport, much of the promise the Belgian
> possessed seemed to be quickly curtailed by his car's shortcomings. Even
> compared to his teammate Vandoorne seemed miserable, and while it was always
> going to be a tough ask, it would have been nice to see him match up more
> favourably with Alonso. Still, the 25-year-old had his moments - chiefly two
> consecutive P7s in Singapore and Malaysia - but you'd like to see more in
> 2018 from a driver purported to be the future of one of F1's most storied
> franchises.
>>>
>>> Rating: 5/10
>>>
>>> The Stats
>>>
>>>    . 2017 WCC Position: 9th - 30 points
>>>    . 2016 WCC Position: 6th - 76 points
>>>    . Best Finish: 6th (Fernando Alonso, Hungary)
>>>    . Average Finish: 11.48
>>>    . DNFs: 13 (+ 2 DNS)
>>>    . Q3 Appearances: 14
>>>    . Engine Related Grid Penalties: 393 Teammate Head-to-Head:
>>>
>>> Fernando Alonso
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stoffel Vandoorne
>>>
>>> 14
>>>
>>> Qualifying
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>> Race
>>>
>>> 1
>>>
>>> 7
>>>
>>> DNFs
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>> 7
>>>
>>> Q3 Appearances
>>>
>>> 5
>>>
>>> -0.259s
>>>
>>> Qualy Pace Difference
>>>
>>>
>>> 17
>>>
>>> Points
>>>
>>> 13
>>>
>>> Big Question: How would you rate McLaren-Honda this past season?
>>>
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