Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 138, Issue 13
From: Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 04:44:14 -0800 (PST)
I don’t want to throw any water on you 
But to the best of my knowledge they never made any 6spd Superamericas 
They were all F-1s
I would like to see the VIN on that’s 6spd SA 

Yes I am aware about the suspension difference in the 550vs575
And yes they made less than 300 manuals for the 575 
But that shouldn’t be a factor in pricing since the follow on model 612 a manual transmission isn’t even offered and the same goes for the entire line going forward 
Yet they seem to put a premium on this, which escapes me since the people who can afford to buy these cars can’t drive a stick!
They have no concept of double clutching and heel and toe
But like my good friend says
It’s their  money 

Glad he made a killing on it 
Must have sold it to some guy in the Middle East 
Hopefully no one is that stupid here 
In my opinion the car will end up like the Pantera 
With owners suing Ferrari for lack of spares
They only made 300 of them I think 
Right now if you break the glass top there is no replacement world wide!

Got to go





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On Jan 24, 2018, at 10:25 PM, Chris Hill via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Clyde, one of my customers sold his 6 speed Superamerica for $725,000.00 I shit you not, he paid $278,000 for it as second owner!
And a 550 doesn't have skyhook suspension and is sprung stiffer than a 575. That's why and very few 6 speed 575's

Thank you
Chris Hill

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Today's Topics:

 1. Pricing gone mad (Clarence Romero Jr.)
 2. Re: Pricing gone mad (Erik Nielsen)
 3. Re: Pricing gone mad (Rick Moseley)
 4. Re: Pricing gone mad (Doug)
 5. Ooops... :-) (Charles Perry)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 07:53:53 -0500
From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
To: Ferrari List <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad
Message-ID: <A6544D6B-DE9D-44B8-BAAD-94FB9C829A3E [at] gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Ok
So I am working part time as a tech at an independent dealer of Ferrari?s
I got bored not working
I get the FML as a perk
So I am thumbing thru the pricing
Asking price bullshit ( my god haven?t they learned after 40 plus years)

You have 550 going for more than 575 ?
A lesser car going for more than an improved model, only in Ferrari Land
And some idiots that have 6 speed 575 are asking are you ready for this $278K for a 16 year old car with unknown miles on it
Special needs buyers need not apply!

But wait it gets better the superamerica crowd is doing meth !
Yes they want $399k for a car that has known history with a bad roof!
This is the Hubble Telescope of cars from Italy!  
Please someone out there speak up!

And the GTC4 Lusso crowd is playing Russian roulette with an automatic
When have you ever heard or seen a 4 seat Ferrari bring money back to the table?
Let me refresh your memory 456/ 612 Scaglietti both have resale values of a YUGO!
These clowns are asking $300+ for a 2017
And one of the cars is white with a red interior (pimp mobile)
And it?s in North Carolina no less !
Does the Christian Collation know of this?

Why are the cars with 6 speeds bring crazy prices?
Most of the people buying these cars can?t drive a stick!
The biggest repairs on 6 speeds is clutch replaced ...
Look at all the listings prior to the F1 transmission
Why not just take the $100 bills and start a fire in stead.

But where the insanity really lies is in the 488 market
Used cars going for $325+
Some of them 3 years old
Yes Virginia over 300 large for a used car that if your brought it back to the dealer you would get 60% of that back!
Yea buddy
The idiots are back big time!

Got to go
It?s hump day






   RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    


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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:49:56 -0600
From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad
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Asking pricing in FML has always been nuts.  690 Ferraris listed on eBay, 1734 on cars.com, it's not like you can't get a pharmaceutical free version of price transparency...

-----Original Message-----
From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Sent: ?1/?24/?2018 6:54
To: "Erik Nielsen" <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad

Ok
So I am working part time as a tech at an independent dealer of Ferrari?s
I got bored not working
I get the FML as a perk
So I am thumbing thru the pricing
Asking price bullshit ( my god haven?t they learned after 40 plus years)


You have 550 going for more than 575 ?
A lesser car going for more than an improved model, only in Ferrari Land
And some idiots that have 6 speed 575 are asking are you ready for this $278K for a 16 year old car with unknown miles on it
Special needs buyers need not apply!


But wait it gets better the superamerica crowd is doing meth !
Yes they want $399k for a car that has known history with a bad roof!
This is the Hubble Telescope of cars from Italy!  
Please someone out there speak up!


And the GTC4 Lusso crowd is playing Russian roulette with an automatic
When have you ever heard or seen a 4 seat Ferrari bring money back to the table?
Let me refresh your memory 456/ 612 Scaglietti both have resale values of a YUGO!
These clowns are asking $300+ for a 2017
And one of the cars is white with a red interior (pimp mobile)
And it?s in North Carolina no less !
Does the Christian Collation know of this?


Why are the cars with 6 speeds bring crazy prices?
Most of the people buying these cars can?t drive a stick!
The biggest repairs on 6 speeds is clutch replaced ...
Look at all the listings prior to the F1 transmission
Why not just take the $100 bills and start a fire in stead.


But where the insanity really lies is in the 488 market
Used cars going for $325+
Some of them 3 years old
Yes Virginia over 300 large for a used car that if your brought it back to the dealer you would get 60% of that back!
Yea buddy
The idiots are back big time!


Got to go
It?s hump day












   RF4-4EVR


Scars are Tattoos with better stories !


If you have no enemies, you have no character !


Clyde Romero    




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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:08:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
To: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad
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The ONLY thing wrong with cLyDeS observation is that this one is too big to fit on a mug....


    From: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 4:54 AM
Subject: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad

Ok?So I am working part time as a tech at an independent dealer of Ferrari?sI got bored not workingI get the FML as a perkSo I am thumbing thru the pricing?Asking price bullshit ( my god haven?t they learned after 40 plus years)
You have 550 going for more than 575 ?A lesser car going for more than an improved model, only in Ferrari LandAnd some idiots that have 6 speed 575 are asking are you ready for this $278K for a 16 year old car with unknown miles on itSpecial needs buyers need not apply!
But wait it gets better the superamerica crowd is doing meth !Yes they want $399k for a car that has known history with a bad roof!This is the Hubble Telescope of cars from Italy! ?Please someone out there speak up!
And the GTC4 Lusso crowd is playing Russian roulette with an automatic?When have you ever heard or seen a 4 seat Ferrari bring money back to the table?Let me refresh your memory 456/ 612 Scaglietti both have resale values of a YUGO!These clowns are asking $300+ for a 2017And one of the cars is white with a red interior (pimp mobile)And it?s in North Carolina no less !Does the Christian Collation know of this??
Why are the cars with 6 speeds bring crazy prices?Most of the people buying these cars can?t drive a stick!The biggest repairs on 6 speeds is clutch replaced ...Look at all the listings prior to the F1 transmission?Why not just take the $100 bills and start a fire in stead.?
But where the insanity really lies is in the 488 marketUsed cars going for $325+?Some of them 3 years oldYes Virginia over 300 large for a used car that if your brought it back to the dealer you would get 60% of that back!Yea buddyThe idiots are back big time!
Got to go?It?s hump day





? ? ?RF4-4EVR
Scars are Tattoos with better stories !
If you have no enemies, you have no character !
Clyde Romero? ??

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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:38:09 -0600
From: "Doug" <doug [at] janak.com>
To: "Mike Lambert" <hmlambert [at] me.com>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad
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Hey Mike,



Are you still getting these?  I?m forwarding it to  you just in case you haven?t seen/noticed it.  I love Clyde?s take on this stuff.  Specifically, I thought of you when he brought up the market price for a Superamerica.  Maybe it?s time to revisit selling yours?  If you did, would you get another Ferrari?  If not, what would you like to get instead?



Where do you want to go shooting next time, indoors or outdoors?  We really do need to get serious about doing this!



Cheers,

Doug



PS, let me know what you think about Clyde?s comments and whether or not you?re still getting ferrarilist emails and if not, do you want to see the groups replies?  When Clyde pokes a stick, it usually stirs up an interesting exchange.



From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+doug=janak.com [at] ferrarilist.com] On Behalf Of Clarence Romero Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:54 AM
To: Doug Janak
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Pricing gone mad



Ok

So I am working part time as a tech at an independent dealer of Ferrari?s

I got bored not working

I get the FML as a perk

So I am thumbing thru the pricing

Asking price bullshit ( my god haven?t they learned after 40 plus years)



You have 550 going for more than 575 ?

A lesser car going for more than an improved model, only in Ferrari Land

And some idiots that have 6 speed 575 are asking are you ready for this $278K for a 16 year old car with unknown miles on it

Special needs buyers need not apply!



But wait it gets better the superamerica crowd is doing meth !

Yes they want $399k for a car that has known history with a bad roof!

This is the Hubble Telescope of cars from Italy!  

Please someone out there speak up!



And the GTC4 Lusso crowd is playing Russian roulette with an automatic

When have you ever heard or seen a 4 seat Ferrari bring money back to the table?

Let me refresh your memory 456/ 612 Scaglietti both have resale values of a YUGO!

These clowns are asking $300+ for a 2017

And one of the cars is white with a red interior (pimp mobile)

And it?s in North Carolina no less !

Does the Christian Collation know of this?



Why are the cars with 6 speeds bring crazy prices?

Most of the people buying these cars can?t drive a stick!

The biggest repairs on 6 speeds is clutch replaced ...

Look at all the listings prior to the F1 transmission

Why not just take the $100 bills and start a fire in stead.



But where the insanity really lies is in the 488 market

Used cars going for $325+

Some of them 3 years old

Yes Virginia over 300 large for a used car that if your brought it back to the dealer you would get 60% of that back!

Yea buddy

The idiots are back big time!



Got to go

It?s hump day













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Scars are Tattoos with better stories !



If you have no enemies, you have no character !



Clyde Romero    





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