Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Initial report on SW flight 1380

[Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4]

My guess is she died from a broken neck or just lack of oxygen 

I know the chairman of the NTSB very well, he used to be a Piedmont airline pilot and was on the ALPA National safety committee while I was the there at ALPA.

You know the captain was a navy pilot, she did an outstanding job 

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On May 7, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Thanks Clyde,

Answers a lot...  I was wondering if the damage was localized or omin-directional.   The condition of the left wing shows it was more than local and the lack of debris in the cabin likely points to the unfortunate death was due to being sucked out the window and not a shrapnel strike.

I've seen CTDs sucked out of windows and rarely (almost never) do they go out head first... arms first, yes.   Use your imagination for the rest.

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From: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
To: Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net>
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Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 2:29 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] Initial report on SW flight 1380

For those of you interested 

     RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    

Initial report on SW flight 1380

 

Here’s the money line from the report:

 

The FDR also indicated that the airplane rolled left to about 40 degrees before the flight crew was able counter the roll with control inputs. 

 

The flight crew reported that the airplane exhibited handling difficulties throughout the remainder of the flight. 

 

The captain took over flying duties and the first officer began running emergency checklists. 

 

The captain requested a diversion from the air traffic controller; she first requested the nearest airport but quickly decided on Philadelphia. 

 

Gary B. says: 

 

This clears up the questions of who was at controls and who was on RT.

 

IMHO, Good decision for capt to fly and talk while F/O ran multiple checklist.

 

40 degree bank is somewhat of a big deal in an airliner. Normal bank angle limit is 30 degrees.

 

We do emergency training at 45 degrees, which is really an instrument cross check exercise to maintain level altitude.

 

It wasn’t clear if the pilot descended at a slower IAS that redline due to the structural damage. 

 

Redline would be normal for rapid loss of pressurization. ie get down to 10,000 feet ASAP for oxygen.

 

 

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