Isn’t that the whole design brief for the FF/Lusso?
You had ONE job! F-Car in the snow!
J
From: Britt2Asa [mailto:britt2asa [at] aol.com]
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 12:18 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F-1 transmission replacement
UH guys, the 456 is a horrible design with an unrepairable window problem. Back in 06, 07 you could buy one for £30k gbp and every one needed 1500.00 worth of parts to fix the door glass. They just will not seal. The new factory parts would
work for less than a year and then break again. I took pictures at the 2010 FOC concours which had a display of 15 456’s, 14 of them had such large gaps between the door window glass and the B pillar you could slide your hand in there. Ferrari never managed
a proper repair from what I have found out and just moved onto the 612.
I really wanted to buy one, they were very cheap. Autos had a big problem with a gearbox shift and a seal as I recall.....transmission was an issue but I don’t remember the details. Still think they look nice but not if they fill with rain
water!
Below is a local car, it was minus 10. At the local food store.
In my 22 years on The List, these are the kindest words I’ve ever heard cLyDe speak on a non-512TR Ferrari.
I’m calling my broker now to liquidate all of my security holdings so I can invest it all in 456s! Damn the 348s! Full speed ahead!
J
Quality control is everything
And yes you are right it’s not a lot of miles
With regards to the 456 it’s a great car but not for your climate
Don’t you live in Canada?
Ferrari doesn’t do well in cold climates
Auto week did a test on a Lusso it’s an all we’ll drive Ferrari
It was in January in Michigan
Temps got down to say -10
The car had more caution lights on than the space shuttle challenger 73 seconds into flight!
The 456 is a good temperate climate car in my opinion
While I was teaching at a local independent dealer the sold a good 456 to a guy in California
Daily driver
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Yeah, I know the perspective and agree with you. 26K is A LOT of miles for a Ferrari, but really, let’s not kid ourselves here, it is a car like any other.
Despite the fact it uses a delicate and complex mechanism to change gears, at it’s heart, this generation of their F1 transmission is a glorified manual (still uses conventional gears, syncros, shifter forks, etc). There’s really no excuse
for something so major to fail within such a short period of time.
I may have mentioned this story here before, but at one of the shows I attend, a 355 F1 drove up and I couldn’t believe how much I could smell the burning clutch when he drove past... Plus how the car bucked and jerked when trying to drive
slowly. I caught up with the owner later and he said it was his first Ferrari. Oh boy...
Actually, tire rot is low on the priority list, cam belts being the topper! Remember, gotta do it every three years or else your engine will explode! Ha!
I really have no interest in owning a newer Ferrari. I would’ve considered nothing newer than the 456, but I’ve learned recently that they can suffer from major corrosion issues, even the pampered examples. It makes sense as I remember
when they were introduced that they featured a new chassis construction technique that somehow they could weld the aluminum panels to the steel chassis (instead of just riveting/screwing or adhesive bonding together). I believe Pininfarina patented the technique(?).
I’ve seen the effects of how aluminum reacts with steel. Yep, scratched that one off of my list.
Peter
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From: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:47:11 AM
To: Peter Rychel
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] F-1 transmission replacement
Peter agreed
But you have to put it in perspective
The average Ferrari-Maserati driver does 3K miles per year !
So in retrospect this was a lifetime of miles!
One of the biggest expenses of a Ferrari owner is rotting tires and bad gas in the tank!
And the convertible crowd has to deal with hydraulic rams that lock up because they leave the top down rather than cycling it
There is a whole cottage industry now in Ferrari rams for the tops!
They sell a product that everyone wants
They make just under the market so you always have to wait for one
There are only, what 25 Ferrari authorized dealers in the US
The car deprecates just like every other one ( no matter what the sh*t rag FML says)
Maintenace is no longer and issue because they come with a 7 year warranty
So the dealer can ask what ever he wants for a used one after he has raped the poor dolt for trading it in.
When something does break it’s $185+ for labor and parts quality control of a LEGO set!
I am just glad I can work on my car and have no desire to own any of the new cars.
Still looking to buy a 575, it will happen, they are going back to reality slowly.
There is a guy in NJ selling one at a clyde price, I will wait until it starts to snow and hit him for it.
There is also one in BNA but it’s on consignment and owner is on meth with his pricing.
It’s a 9 owner car, yes and the idiot is asking top dollar, somebody call him at let him know what color the sky is in the real world!
Currently in St. Barths our of the cold wet weather
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26K mi and the entire transmission replaced... Jesus, even Dodge Caravans get double more mileage out of theirs!
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This is a common item for 430
A good friend of mine had one
Luckily he had it under 30 days and he had the dealer fix it !
The early cars were bombs!
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